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I wonder why not create a ad-free/privacy fork of Chromium. Especially on Mobile, I'd use that for sure. Existing ones have huge strings attached. Mozilla is ba

I wonder why not create a ad-free/privacy fork of Chromium. Especially on Mobile, I'd use that for sure. Existing ones have huge strings attached. Mozilla is basically FUBAR at this point.

cycomanic 4y ago
Why is Mozilla fubar? I'd argue it's much less work to get behind Mozilla than trying to maintain a chromium fork.
kmeisthax 4y ago
This exists, it's called Ungoogled Chromium. Removing whatever misfeatures Google adds to Chrome is fairly straightforward. The real danger to having a single codebase for the whole web is spec validation. Most web standards rely on two independent implementations. For newer technologies we could technically count WebKit and Blink as separate, but Gecko was providing an entirely separate codebase that isn't a fork of anything. Remember how WebSQL was basically put out to pasture because it was just SQLite, warts and all, shoved inside the web sandbox? That's the sort of problem we'd rather avoid. Single-implementation standards tend to pick up bugs and misbehaviors from their implementation, since everyone winds up depending on implementation bugs rather than getting them fixed to match spec.
- HWR_14 4y ago
  > Removing whatever misfeatures Google adds to Chrome is fairly straightforward. Yes. But adding back in Manifest v2 isn't. Even MSFT claims that it's too much work for them.
  - NeverFade 4y ago
    IIUC, the only problem with Mv3 is that they disabled the WebRequest API. A fork of Chromium that solves this problem will just have to re-enable the WebRequest API, which seems doable.
    - HWR_14 4y ago
      Isn't the lack of a WebRequest API one of the primary changes in Manifest v3?
      - NeverFade 4y ago
        It's apparently quite possible to keep supporting the WebRequest API in Mv3, since Firefox is doing just that.
        HWR_14 4y ago
        Firefox is still supporting Mv2 though? I thought FF just translated Mv3 to Mv2
Melatonic 4y ago
Firefox on mobile works great for me and has for years?
- Markoff 4y ago
  Does it support such basic features as pull down to refresh or it's still planned for release in 2035? Does it support any extension I wanna use?

I wonder why not create a ad-free/privacy fork of Chromium. Especially on Mobile, I'd use that for sure. Existing ones have huge strings attached. Mozilla is basically FUBAR at this point.

cycomanic 4y ago

Why is Mozilla fubar? I'd argue it's much less work to get behind Mozilla than trying to maintain a chromium fork.

kmeisthax 4y ago

This exists, it's called Ungoogled Chromium. Removing whatever misfeatures Google adds to Chrome is fairly straightforward. The real danger to having a single codebase for the whole web is spec validation. Most web standards rely on two independent implementations. For newer technologies we could technically count WebKit and Blink as separate, but Gecko was providing an entirely separate codebase that isn't a fork of anything. Remember how WebSQL was basically put out to pasture because it was just SQLite, warts and all, shoved inside the web sandbox? That's the sort of problem we'd rather avoid. Single-implementation standards tend to pick up bugs and misbehaviors from their implementation, since everyone winds up depending on implementation bugs rather than getting them fixed to match spec.

HWR_14 4y ago
> Removing whatever misfeatures Google adds to Chrome is fairly straightforward. Yes. But adding back in Manifest v2 isn't. Even MSFT claims that it's too much work for them.
- NeverFade 4y ago
  IIUC, the only problem with Mv3 is that they disabled the WebRequest API. A fork of Chromium that solves this problem will just have to re-enable the WebRequest API, which seems doable.
  - HWR_14 4y ago
    Isn't the lack of a WebRequest API one of the primary changes in Manifest v3?
    - NeverFade 4y ago
      It's apparently quite possible to keep supporting the WebRequest API in Mv3, since Firefox is doing just that.
      - HWR_14 4y ago
        Firefox is still supporting Mv2 though? I thought FF just translated Mv3 to Mv2

Melatonic 4y ago

Firefox on mobile works great for me and has for years?

Markoff 4y ago
Does it support such basic features as pull down to refresh or it's still planned for release in 2035? Does it support any extension I wanna use?