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FANGs? startups? contracts? It's been a while since I looked, is 200k the norm now? Asking for a friend...

politelemon 4y ago
It most certainly isn't the norm now, with exceptions of course. FAANG and some large banks can pay a lot, but most do not.
nerdponx 4y ago
In Boston and NYC I am seeing $150-200k at well-funded startups for "experienced IC" roles. If you have several years of experience, and you're actually a good engineer, and aren't at least above 150k in a market like this, you need to start interviewing, because your current employer is taking advantage of you.
- PainfullyNormal 4y ago
  > If you have several years of experience, and you're actually a good interviewer FTFY.
jjevanoorschot 4y ago
I mentioned £200k because it's near the top end for a senior engineer in London (although not the very top). FAANG, some Unicorns, trading firms will pay this to a senior engineer. Bear in mind this is total compensation, so part of that will be in stock or options. For engineers based in the UK that are shocked by this number I'd recommend reading this [0] article. It's about compensation in the Netherlands but the same principle holds for the UK. [0] https://blog.pragmaticengineer.com/software-engineering-salaries-in-the-netherlands-and-europe/ https://blog.pragmaticengineer.com/software-engineering-sala...
- eclat 4y ago
  This was a great read, thanks.
dominotw 4y ago
Yea 200-250k is starting base of seniors now. Options, RSUs, bonus on top of it.
- jjevanoorschot 4y ago
  This isn't the case in London (which is what the parent comment is referring to). In London you can probably half that base.
- jcadam 4y ago
  Depends where in the US. 200k is not typical for anyone working outside of a FAANG in SV. I've got almost 17 years exp and not making $200k base, and recruiters who contact me balk when I ask for something in that range - to include someone who contacted me on this very site and put me through a multi-week interview process only to offer me considerably less than 200 (or even my current pay). And considering the way the economy is going (at least in the West), it's probably smart to work a side gig and make as much money as you can, while you can, because work is going to dry up soon.
  - mrelectric 4y ago
    Why do you think work is going to dry up soon?
  - dominotw 4y ago
    > I've got almost 17 years exp and not making $200k base I am surprised by this. You can check levels.fyi to target the right companies. I guarantee you 100% that you can easily make > 230k base outside FANG for a remote position.
    - jcadam 4y ago
      > I am surprised by this Really? I don't personally know anyone making that much. My mother is a software engineer with an additional 20 years of experience on me and has never made that much (currently makes less than me, in fact).
  - 4y ago

It most certainly isn't the norm now, with exceptions of course. FAANG and some large banks can pay a lot, but most do not.

nerdponx 4y ago

In Boston and NYC I am seeing $150-200k at well-funded startups for "experienced IC" roles. If you have several years of experience, and you're actually a good engineer, and aren't at least above 150k in a market like this, you need to start interviewing, because your current employer is taking advantage of you.

PainfullyNormal 4y ago
> If you have several years of experience, and you're actually a good interviewer FTFY.

jjevanoorschot 4y ago

I mentioned £200k because it's near the top end for a senior engineer in London (although not the very top). FAANG, some Unicorns, trading firms will pay this to a senior engineer. Bear in mind this is total compensation, so part of that will be in stock or options. For engineers based in the UK that are shocked by this number I'd recommend reading this [0] article. It's about compensation in the Netherlands but the same principle holds for the UK. [0] https://blog.pragmaticengineer.com/software-engineering-salaries-in-the-netherlands-and-europe/ https://blog.pragmaticengineer.com/software-engineering-sala...

eclat 4y ago
This was a great read, thanks.

dominotw 4y ago

Yea 200-250k is starting base of seniors now. Options, RSUs, bonus on top of it.

jjevanoorschot 4y ago
This isn't the case in London (which is what the parent comment is referring to). In London you can probably half that base.
jcadam 4y ago
Depends where in the US. 200k is not typical for anyone working outside of a FAANG in SV. I've got almost 17 years exp and not making $200k base, and recruiters who contact me balk when I ask for something in that range - to include someone who contacted me on this very site and put me through a multi-week interview process only to offer me considerably less than 200 (or even my current pay). And considering the way the economy is going (at least in the West), it's probably smart to work a side gig and make as much money as you can, while you can, because work is going to dry up soon.
- mrelectric 4y ago
  Why do you think work is going to dry up soon?
- dominotw 4y ago
  > I've got almost 17 years exp and not making $200k base I am surprised by this. You can check levels.fyi to target the right companies. I guarantee you 100% that you can easily make > 230k base outside FANG for a remote position.
  - jcadam 4y ago
    > I am surprised by this Really? I don't personally know anyone making that much. My mother is a software engineer with an additional 20 years of experience on me and has never made that much (currently makes less than me, in fact).
- 4y ago