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“AI” is not a scam, but it’s a very wide term that people abuse. The self driving software packages that work, the Cruze and Waymos and Mercedes of the world,

“AI” is not a scam, but it’s a very wide term that people abuse. The self driving software packages that work, the Cruze and Waymos and Mercedes of the world, are in limited careful rollout. These companies and teams want to make sure it’s safe and robust before entering mass market adoption. Tesla is one of the weakest and most immature offerings of the major players, and it has been given the widest distribution. It is utterly frustrating.

jqpabc123 4y ago
"AI” is not a scam, but it’s a very wide term that people abuse. The abuse starts with using the phrase "artificial intelligence".
- kadoban 4y ago
  If it's a scam, it's a really old one. It's been called AI since the state-of-the-art was a few "if" statements chained together.
  - jqpabc123 4y ago
    It's an oldie but goodie --- but still a scam. Selling what we call a computer as "intelligent" is like selling a DVD player as "creative" for it's ability to produce video. They are both just play back devices --- reproducing the work of others. Useful for sure but no more "intelligent" or "creative" than a hammer.
    - kadoban 4y ago
      What would you call the field of Artificial Intelligence then? I can't think of anything.
      - jqpabc123 4y ago
        Pattern Recognition? Automated Learning? Adaptive Software?
        jqpabc123 4y ago
        A new one that I'm kinda fond of --- Probabilistic Programming. Any answer that "AI" provides has no assurance of correctness. It's up to you to judge if the probability is acceptable. Do you really want to trust a self driving vehicle that misinterprets it's environment 20% of the time?
        kadoban 4y ago
        That's not a property of all AI techniques though, so calling the whole field by that seems very misleading.
        jqpabc123 4y ago
        Intelligence is not a property of all "AI" either.
        kadoban 4y ago
        None of those really cover much of the field. AI also includes things like expert systems, which don't autmatically learn, adapt to much or recognize any patterns.
        jqpabc123 4y ago
        These type of systems are just a database with a multi-factor weighted search of some sort. Any "intelligence" involved comes directly from the real experts who set the weighting parameters and the user who interprets the results
        kadoban 4y ago
        Even if true, that doesn't make any of those other names fit any better. The AI name works for me because it is goal oriented. Artificial Intelligence is implementing artificial systems that perform tasks that would otherwise require an intelligence (eg a human) to perform. It doesn't really specify how you do that, it's just about what you're having it do.

jqpabc123 4y ago

"AI” is not a scam, but it’s a very wide term that people abuse. The abuse starts with using the phrase "artificial intelligence".

kadoban 4y ago
If it's a scam, it's a really old one. It's been called AI since the state-of-the-art was a few "if" statements chained together.
- jqpabc123 4y ago
  It's an oldie but goodie --- but still a scam. Selling what we call a computer as "intelligent" is like selling a DVD player as "creative" for it's ability to produce video. They are both just play back devices --- reproducing the work of others. Useful for sure but no more "intelligent" or "creative" than a hammer.
  - kadoban 4y ago
    What would you call the field of Artificial Intelligence then? I can't think of anything.
    - jqpabc123 4y ago
      Pattern Recognition? Automated Learning? Adaptive Software?
      - jqpabc123 4y ago
        A new one that I'm kinda fond of --- Probabilistic Programming. Any answer that "AI" provides has no assurance of correctness. It's up to you to judge if the probability is acceptable. Do you really want to trust a self driving vehicle that misinterprets it's environment 20% of the time?
        kadoban 4y ago
        That's not a property of all AI techniques though, so calling the whole field by that seems very misleading.
        jqpabc123 4y ago
        Intelligence is not a property of all "AI" either.
      - kadoban 4y ago
        None of those really cover much of the field. AI also includes things like expert systems, which don't autmatically learn, adapt to much or recognize any patterns.
        jqpabc123 4y ago
        These type of systems are just a database with a multi-factor weighted search of some sort. Any "intelligence" involved comes directly from the real experts who set the weighting parameters and the user who interprets the results
        kadoban 4y ago
        Even if true, that doesn't make any of those other names fit any better. The AI name works for me because it is goal oriented. Artificial Intelligence is implementing artificial systems that perform tasks that would otherwise require an intelligence (eg a human) to perform. It doesn't really specify how you do that, it's just about what you're having it do.