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I guess everyone Garry has blocked on Twitter will not be applying to YC any time soon :)

by hellomyguys 4y ago

smcl 4y ago
What's the story here, did this happen a lot or something?
- password4321 4y ago
  Many who get into it start blocking lists they get from their bubble.
- hellomyguys 4y ago
  From my understanding he autoblocks anyone who likes a tweet that pushes back on his political takes.
  - daniel-cussen 4y ago
    Messages just like it are evenly diffused with death threats. That's why. I've gotten death threats, no joke. Hitman showed up at my house one time. No joke. No joke.
  - smcl 4y ago
    OK so I was waiting for a reply like this that explained the accusation. I read this, liked a few @garrytan replies that weren't positive and ... it appears I'm now blocked!? What the hell!!??
    - smcl 4y ago
      edit: so apparently I conducted my test at a really unfortunate time when Twitter was having some global problems. It has recovered and I am not blocked at all.
garry 4y ago
Twitter has been a tough one - I got involved in local politics which has been a challenge. Large accounts typically do have to block a lot to make it usable, and in particular I've had problems with folks doxxing my former home address (I had to sell that house and move), and making threats of violence against me. I'm sorry if I got it wrong, and I am happy to unblock if I did get it wrong.
- 908087 4y ago
  The fact that you've got countless people who have never heard of you blocked, would seem to indicate that you have in fact got it wrong.
  - hombre_fatal 4y ago
    I don’t see what’s wrong about it. They are probably on some blocklist of low value reply guys.
    - hellomyguys 4y ago
      No, I think he blocks anyone who likes a tweet that disagrees with him. Not necessarily people who are replying to him.
      - bot41 4y ago
        so? it's just twitter
      - hellomyguys 4y ago
        I was just correcting you're incorrect point...
      - senttoschool 4y ago
        I really don't think he's that petty. Also, Twitter can be toxic as hell. He should block a lot of people if he wants to stay sane while using it.
12_throw_away 4y ago
Besides the "block anyone remotely progressive" approach to social media (including industry folks like Anil Dash [1]) - he seems extremely uncivil and rude [2]. And Sam Altman has explicitly referenced his politics as a reason for this decision [3]. This gives me the impression that there's a specific political agenda being advanced at YC ... [1] https://twitter.com/anildash/status/1564285359755874304?s=20&t=VcY1RVO8y2Fs4Wo27ogs5g https://twitter.com/anildash/status/1564285359755874304?s=20... [2] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FH6Y9DCUYAEkV1p?format=png&name=900x900 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FH6Y9DCUYAEkV1p?format=png&name=... [3] https://twitter.com/sama/status/1564256798323851265 https://twitter.com/sama/status/1564256798323851265 edit: deleted a not very clear link about certain politically charged individuals.
- 12_throw_away 4y ago
  So, why the downvotes? We're not allowed to talk about this?
  - dang 4y ago
    (Edit: the GP comment was edited after I wrote this - more about that below: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32642696 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32642696.) Hardened political rhetoric and seasoned talking points aren't on topic here (regardless of which way the political vector is pointing). If you check out the site guidelines, it should be clear why: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. You don't have to agree with anyone's views but this style of argument is deathly to the curious conversation we want here. Curious conversation requires, among other things, respect across differences—wanting to learn more about how someone thinks, and why they think that way, and trusting that they have good reasons for all that even if, in the end, they're wrong. And, of course, you and your views deserve the same consideration. If you want to argue against someone's views here (Garry's or anyone else's), you'll get much further by making your substantive points thoughtfully. We're trying to avoid the online callout/shaming culture here, at least to the extent possible on the open internet. The culture of political attack goes very much the other way, of course—people save screenshots of the worst things they can find, bring them up at every opportunity, and so on. Guilt by association is another common tactic. None of this helps us really understand each other—anyone can be made to look bad that way, so it really doesn't have much persuasive power. It does get one's own side riled up (in a yay way) and the opposing side riled up (in a boo way), but riler-uppers are what we're trying to avoid on HN, because they destroy the curious conversation I was just talking about. (I hope it's clear that all of the above should and does apply equally to opposing political sides.)
pain_perdu 4y ago
I am blocked by Garry despite having zero interactions with him on Twitter (nor ever tweeting anything controversial). I see numerous reports of other people stating the same both in this thread and on twitter: https://imgur.com/a/MOPDVSl https://imgur.com/a/MOPDVSl
Anoushk 4y ago
lol
willmw101 4y ago
Didn't expect most of this thread to be people whining about being blocked on twitter. What the hell has happened to hacker news?

I guess everyone Garry has blocked on Twitter will not be applying to YC any time soon :)

smcl 4y ago

What's the story here, did this happen a lot or something?

password4321 4y ago
Many who get into it start blocking lists they get from their bubble.
hellomyguys 4y ago
From my understanding he autoblocks anyone who likes a tweet that pushes back on his political takes.
- daniel-cussen 4y ago
  Messages just like it are evenly diffused with death threats. That's why. I've gotten death threats, no joke. Hitman showed up at my house one time. No joke. No joke.
- smcl 4y ago
  OK so I was waiting for a reply like this that explained the accusation. I read this, liked a few @garrytan replies that weren't positive and ... it appears I'm now blocked!? What the hell!!??
  - smcl 4y ago
    edit: so apparently I conducted my test at a really unfortunate time when Twitter was having some global problems. It has recovered and I am not blocked at all.

garry 4y ago

Twitter has been a tough one - I got involved in local politics which has been a challenge. Large accounts typically do have to block a lot to make it usable, and in particular I've had problems with folks doxxing my former home address (I had to sell that house and move), and making threats of violence against me. I'm sorry if I got it wrong, and I am happy to unblock if I did get it wrong.

908087 4y ago
The fact that you've got countless people who have never heard of you blocked, would seem to indicate that you have in fact got it wrong.
- hombre_fatal 4y ago
  I don’t see what’s wrong about it. They are probably on some blocklist of low value reply guys.
  - hellomyguys 4y ago
    No, I think he blocks anyone who likes a tweet that disagrees with him. Not necessarily people who are replying to him.
    - bot41 4y ago
      so? it's just twitter
    - hellomyguys 4y ago
      I was just correcting you're incorrect point...
    - senttoschool 4y ago
      I really don't think he's that petty. Also, Twitter can be toxic as hell. He should block a lot of people if he wants to stay sane while using it.

12_throw_away 4y ago

Besides the "block anyone remotely progressive" approach to social media (including industry folks like Anil Dash [1]) - he seems extremely uncivil and rude [2]. And Sam Altman has explicitly referenced his politics as a reason for this decision [3]. This gives me the impression that there's a specific political agenda being advanced at YC ... [1] https://twitter.com/anildash/status/1564285359755874304?s=20&t=VcY1RVO8y2Fs4Wo27ogs5g https://twitter.com/anildash/status/1564285359755874304?s=20... [2] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FH6Y9DCUYAEkV1p?format=png&name=900x900 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FH6Y9DCUYAEkV1p?format=png&name=... [3] https://twitter.com/sama/status/1564256798323851265 https://twitter.com/sama/status/1564256798323851265 edit: deleted a not very clear link about certain politically charged individuals.

12_throw_away 4y ago
So, why the downvotes? We're not allowed to talk about this?
- dang 4y ago
  (Edit: the GP comment was edited after I wrote this - more about that below: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32642696 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32642696.) Hardened political rhetoric and seasoned talking points aren't on topic here (regardless of which way the political vector is pointing). If you check out the site guidelines, it should be clear why: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. You don't have to agree with anyone's views but this style of argument is deathly to the curious conversation we want here. Curious conversation requires, among other things, respect across differences—wanting to learn more about how someone thinks, and why they think that way, and trusting that they have good reasons for all that even if, in the end, they're wrong. And, of course, you and your views deserve the same consideration. If you want to argue against someone's views here (Garry's or anyone else's), you'll get much further by making your substantive points thoughtfully. We're trying to avoid the online callout/shaming culture here, at least to the extent possible on the open internet. The culture of political attack goes very much the other way, of course—people save screenshots of the worst things they can find, bring them up at every opportunity, and so on. Guilt by association is another common tactic. None of this helps us really understand each other—anyone can be made to look bad that way, so it really doesn't have much persuasive power. It does get one's own side riled up (in a yay way) and the opposing side riled up (in a boo way), but riler-uppers are what we're trying to avoid on HN, because they destroy the curious conversation I was just talking about. (I hope it's clear that all of the above should and does apply equally to opposing political sides.)

pain_perdu 4y ago

I am blocked by Garry despite having zero interactions with him on Twitter (nor ever tweeting anything controversial). I see numerous reports of other people stating the same both in this thread and on twitter: https://imgur.com/a/MOPDVSl https://imgur.com/a/MOPDVSl

Anoushk 4y ago

lol

willmw101 4y ago

Didn't expect most of this thread to be people whining about being blocked on twitter. What the hell has happened to hacker news?