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Even without the ads, you still have multiple cookie popups and banners, floating videos and newsletter notifications to closes before getting to the content. A
by laurent123456 4y ago
Even without the ads, you still have multiple cookie popups and banners, floating videos and newsletter notifications to closes before getting to the content. And of course as you scroll down some of those come back (floating videos in particular).
There was a time where you could just close the tab if it was that bad, but now pretty much all websites are like this so there's no choice.
- fezfight 4y agoublock takes care of quite a few of those things, too. There are more lists you can activate in the options.
- squarefoot 4y agoYeah, lots of junk is added today, not just ads. I can't find the link right now but I'm sure I saw a couple years ago (probably linked here) an article showing that over half of the data traffic is either ads or junk that wastes bandwidth, which isn't flat on mobile.
- zasdffaa 4y agoThere's always a choice. I have no problem with any popups/banners/videos etc. Zero.
- zasdffaa 4y agoTo the downvoters: I block everything and disable js totally. Choice is yours to make.
- citruscomputing 4y agoDitch the cookie pop-ups by adding a custom filter list: https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/abp/ https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/abp/ Enable the uBlock "annoyances" filters to staunch the tide of popups.
- eru 4y agoWell, the cookie popups are only there because of regulation. You are right about all the rest.
- ajdude 4y ago> Well, the cookie popups are only there because of regulation. You don't /need/ them if you only have essential cookies: > At GitHub, we want to protect developer privacy, and we find cookie banners quite irritating, so we decided to look for a solution. After a brief search, we found one: just don’t use any non-essential cookies. Pretty simple, really. https://github.blog/2020-12-17-no-cookie-for-you/ https://github.blog/2020-12-17-no-cookie-for-you/
- hk__2 4y ago> Well, the cookie popups are only there because of regulation. "only"? No, they are here because you use non-essential cookies AND regulation says you must ask visitors about them.
- midasuni 4y agoPlease don’t spread the ad company’s lies. There is no need for pop ups under the gdpr. If you are handling personal information, giving cookies etc which aren’t required (E.g to sign in), then ask at the point of signing in/up. Otherwise you don’t need to set cookies, you might want to, to track and monetise your visitors, but that’s different.
- IX-103 4y agoHow are you supposed to provide a consistent appearance for A/B testing changes without being able to store which group a user is assigned to? How are you supposed to count unique users that visit your site? How are you supposed to figure out why most users bounce? These are legitimate questions a publisher may want to know to improve their site, but are not allowed under GDPR without a specific notice and opt-out. There are many cases where what publications consider "essential" for their business do not match what the EU has decided is "essential". Heck, when GDPR was first proposed most publishers assumed advertising would be allowed under "essential" business uses since they can't provide content if they don't get paid. Clarification on this only came a couple of months before GDPR enforcement started, causing a bit of a scramble for publishers and advertisers.
- londons_explore 4y agoI wonder if there would be a market for something like ublock, but instead of removing the ads, it removes just the content and puts it on an entirely new page - a bit like 'reader mode'. Obviously it would probably need logic for every web page, but that could be croudsourced
- ffpip 4y agohttps://brave.com/speed-reader/ https://brave.com/speed-reader/
- hk__2 4y agoIt’s already a built-in feature in Firefox and Safari.
- arkitaip 4y agoFirefox has the builtin reader mode but there is also plugins that auto click or hide cookie banners.
- SoftTalker 4y agoReader mode sometimes doesn't appear for some sites. I am guessing there is a way for sites to disable it with JS or indicate to the browser that they don't want it.
- londons_explore 4y agoAnd reader mode doesn't auto activate during page load... If I have to wait for all the ads and banners and fonts to load anyway, most of the benefits of reader mode are removed.
- SoftTalker 4y agoSometimes Reader mode gets around adblock detectors or other stoppers on normal page loads. It'd be nice to be able to try it regardless of whether Mozilla thinks it would be useful.
- cft 4y agoThe GDPR cookie pop-ups that make navigation on mobile often nearly impossible was a major assault in the remaining open web. The EU bureaucrats that drafted it never created anything constructive in their lives, only regulated. As a result, less and less of the independent web is getting traffic, everything is consolidating in TikTok, Instagram and similar apps
- mrweasel 4y agoThat honestly just poor UX. But fair enough, there either aren’t many talented UX/UI designer, or companies aren’t using them.
- matkoniecz 4y ago> As a result, less and less of the independent web is getting traffic Tracking cookies are not mandatory. You are not obligated to present cookie banner: you can simply drop nonessential cookies.
- cft 4y agoGetting money for running websites is also non-mandatory? Are we going to fund them from the government 5-year plans yet? Our hosting expenses alone are 8k per month.
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago> Getting money for running websites is also non-mandatory? Correct. I've only run a handful of websites in my life, but not one of them has ever served ads.
- matkoniecz 4y agoGithub.com is example of website capable of limiting themself to nonessential cookies.
- PeterisP 4y agoPeople have a right to privacy. Your business doesn't have a right to profit. It's that simple. If following the requirements of society makes your business unprofitable, too bad, having a business is optional, following the requirements of society is not.