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140k EUR for a dev role? Normally I'd say you're delusional, but since you say you actually know people who consider that normal, may I ask which country(ies) y

by t_mann 4y ago

140k EUR for a dev role? Normally I'd say you're delusional, but since you say you actually know people who consider that normal, may I ask which country(ies) you're talking about (since it's apparently not Switzerland or Norway, where I might have believed it)? I still have a strong suspicion that either your friends gave you wildly inflated numbers, or you happen to know some serious outliers. Check this out for a reality check - the highest-paying Eurozone country is Germany, with an average dev salary of about 60k, and 76k for seniors: https://blog.helloastra.com/2021/10/18/the-average-software-developer-salary https://blog.helloastra.com/2021/10/18/the-average-software-...

richeyryan 4y ago
That site seems to exclude Ireland entirely, which would I think would come in ahead of Germany for salaries and is both a European and Eurozone country.
- t_mann 4y ago
  And by how much would you expect it to be ahead? Spoiler alert, I wouldn't set my hopes too high: https://ie.talent.com/salary?job=software+developer https://ie.talent.com/salary?job=software+developer https://de.talent.com/salary?job=software+developer https://de.talent.com/salary?job=software+developer (this says Ireland is almost on par with Germany, which sounds about right)
nvarsj 4y ago
140k is possible, it's probably an outlier though for a perm role. I worked at a SF based start up and that is around the salary they paid EMEA principal engineers. FAANG will pay more than that for a senior engineer (around 200k). As a contractor you can also hit this number pretty easily (it's around 600/day).
- t_mann 4y ago
  The GP said 140k was at or above the average, while the data suggests that it's an extreme outlier. But tbh I struggle to believe it even for senior roles at a SV start-up. Do you know what the reasoning was for paying so far above the market? Freelancing is a different story.
  - nvarsj 4y ago
    I think you're right, this was in the UK (pre-brexit) so 140 was competitive with similar contracting roles. Elsewhere it is probably a lot lower.
    - sbuk 4y ago
      UK? Exclusively London I would wager.
benhurmarcel 4y ago
It might be a contractor's invoice. So in most countries that would compare to an employee's salary around half of that probably.
golergka 4y ago
Contracting for US-based companies.

by t_mann 4y ago

richeyryan 4y ago

That site seems to exclude Ireland entirely, which would I think would come in ahead of Germany for salaries and is both a European and Eurozone country.

t_mann 4y ago
And by how much would you expect it to be ahead? Spoiler alert, I wouldn't set my hopes too high: https://ie.talent.com/salary?job=software+developer https://ie.talent.com/salary?job=software+developer https://de.talent.com/salary?job=software+developer https://de.talent.com/salary?job=software+developer (this says Ireland is almost on par with Germany, which sounds about right)

nvarsj 4y ago

140k is possible, it's probably an outlier though for a perm role. I worked at a SF based start up and that is around the salary they paid EMEA principal engineers. FAANG will pay more than that for a senior engineer (around 200k). As a contractor you can also hit this number pretty easily (it's around 600/day).

t_mann 4y ago
The GP said 140k was at or above the average, while the data suggests that it's an extreme outlier. But tbh I struggle to believe it even for senior roles at a SV start-up. Do you know what the reasoning was for paying so far above the market? Freelancing is a different story.
- nvarsj 4y ago
  I think you're right, this was in the UK (pre-brexit) so 140 was competitive with similar contracting roles. Elsewhere it is probably a lot lower.
  - sbuk 4y ago
    UK? Exclusively London I would wager.

benhurmarcel 4y ago

It might be a contractor's invoice. So in most countries that would compare to an employee's salary around half of that probably.

golergka 4y ago

Contracting for US-based companies.