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Great, one less thing, thanks. LAB would be awesome as well. We really need an open source alternative to Photoshop. I just don’t know if gimp will ever be it.

unixhero 4y ago
We do. It is called KRITA. https://krita.org/en/features/highlights/ https://krita.org/en/features/highlights/
- Kye 4y ago
  Krita addresses the painting parts of Photoshop. It's still a long way from replacing the photo editing part of photoshop, and it might be a distraction if they even had plans to do that.
  - unixhero 4y ago
    I for one, get all my manipulation needs mer with Krita
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dennis-tra 4y ago
If you’re happy with the feature set of ~Photoshop CS2 you may want to check out Photopea [0]. It runs in your browser, has a similar UI to Photoshop and (for me) has all bells an whistles. It’s also open source [1]. [0] https://www.photopea.com/ https://www.photopea.com/ [1] https://github.com/photopea/photopea https://github.com/photopea/photopea
- Jackim 4y ago
  Photopea is not open source, it says that in the description of the repo. They use GitHub for feature requests and bug reports.
  - dennis-tra 4y ago
    Sorry, you’re totally right, I just quickly searched for “photopea source” and found the github page.
- app4soft 4y ago
  Photopea is not OSS, it is freeware Web App.
  - kyriakos 4y ago
    Ad supported. I think they got an ad free paid version. Been using it for years and I believe it covers over 90% of non professional photoshop use cases.
- ImHereToVote 4y ago
  Photopea will probably never have 32-bit support because of browser limitations. What a shame.
inDigiNeous 4y ago
I have a hard time seeing anything named "Gimp" ever becoming a great alternative for Photoshop. Names have a lot of meaning, you think about it constantly, if you are thinking about a crippled person unconsciously even while developing software, maybe that is why Gimp is in the state it is. Many Open Source projects are just named damn stupidly, like with the KDE suite does it really make any sense naming your projects starting with "K" just to follow the KDE ? Or with Gnome you have so many stupid project names, beginning with the whole name "Gnome". All I can think is a forest gnome when I think about that desktop environment. Maybe it's supposed to be Ge-nome, but who thinks it's a good idea to call a desktop environment a small dwarf like bearded old person .. Combine that with Gnome Gimp, you have a crippled forest gnome handling your image editing, nice. Everytime I try Linux and it's modern desktop environments, the application names just make me cringe, it's like somebody just decided that "Yeah hey naming conventions for software don't matter, just call it the terminal emulator "Kerminal" or whatever shit that suites the stupid naming scheme.
- victornomad 4y ago
  You are writing this from your english centric world vision. The world is big and most people dont care what's the meaning or if it even has a meaning...
- therouwboat 4y ago
  I associate gimp with that full body leather suit. Its weird when people complain about minor things like multiple windows or name when actually doing something with the program is much more complicated.
  - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
    >I associate gimp with that full body leather suit. Me too. As a non native English speaker I didn't think about that first, but then I saw Pulp Fiction.
    - asddubs 4y ago
      this is what gimp was named after to begin with (specifically in reference to pulp fiction). it used to even be called "the gimp" i believe. so it kind of stands out above the crowd of mediocre open source software names by being fully intentionally awful
HKH2 4y ago
Krita is great for drawing with a graphics tablet, especially with the pop-up palette. I don't miss Photoshop at all.
Silverback_VII 4y ago
Most people simply have no time to watch 20 amateurish tutorials just to get basic things done. Maybe it has changed but everytime I see gimp I'm reluctant to open it. too many bad memories... They should just copy what works.
- prokoudine 4y ago
  > Most people simply have no time to watch 20 amateurish tutorials just to get basic things done. There is this tutorial on YT right now: "How to Download and Install Adobe Photoshop CC 2021 Free Trial". It's got 755K views. Do you really think your YT tutorials argument holds any water? :)
KronisLV 4y ago
> We really need an open source alternative to Photoshop. I just don’t know if gimp will ever be it. I guess it depends on what you need it for. As someone who's a software developer and occasionally dabbles in video game development or some very basic design, GIMP is perfectly suitable for what I need. I actually haven't used Photoshop in years and don't really feel like anything at all is missing for my use cases. Things like sometimes creating images for my blog posts, or favicons for my sites. Or touching up photos or removing some details, or maybe creating some textures for a video game/visualization. GIMP is just there and works well enough. For even more basic (or batch) processing, I'd also recommend XnView: https://www.xnview.com/en/ https://www.xnview.com/en/ or IrfanView: https://www.irfanview.com/ https://www.irfanview.com/ That said, the quality of FOSS software is all over the place: * since the UI/UX revamp, I'd say that Blender is one of the better and more high quality packages out there, what FOSS *should* be like * software like GIMP, LibreOffice and Kdenlive take a middle spot: fully functional, decent quality, good enough to be a daily driver * software like Inkscape and OpenShot are at the bottom of the barrel: only workable if there are no alternatives, bad performance and unstable, bad UI/UX and so on
mikae1 4y ago
ADJUSTMENT LAYERS, ADJUSTMENT LAYERS, ADJUSTMENT LAYERS (as Steve Ballmer would've put it). For now I use Krita because... Well, adjustment layers.
hulitu 4y ago
One of the big problems of GIMP is startup time. Registering every plugin at every startup is plain stupid.
- throwaway2037 4y ago
  I have used a standard installation from Debian for years. Mine starts in about three seconds. Is that too slow? Also: How fast does Photoshop load? Surely slower than three seconds. Also: Have you considered contributing a patch to do background loading after GNU Image starts?
ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
> We really need an open source alternative to Photoshop. I just don’t know if gimp will ever be it. If they are just, now, adding CMYK support (Photoshop has had CMYK for many years, as CMYK has been critical for printers), I suspect that you may be correct.
Shorel 4y ago
And it's because of the interface. The name of gimp doesn't matter. Functionalities and workflow matter.
devwastaken 4y ago
If gimp copied photoshops interface there would no be question it's a replacement for 99% of use cases. Unfortunately, Adobe owns that. Along with IP for many other features. Repeal software patents and software intellectual property, and we will have competition.

unixhero 4y ago

We do. It is called KRITA. https://krita.org/en/features/highlights/ https://krita.org/en/features/highlights/

Kye 4y ago
Krita addresses the painting parts of Photoshop. It's still a long way from replacing the photo editing part of photoshop, and it might be a distraction if they even had plans to do that.
- unixhero 4y ago
  I for one, get all my manipulation needs mer with Krita
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]

dennis-tra 4y ago

If you’re happy with the feature set of ~Photoshop CS2 you may want to check out Photopea [0]. It runs in your browser, has a similar UI to Photoshop and (for me) has all bells an whistles. It’s also open source [1]. [0] https://www.photopea.com/ https://www.photopea.com/ [1] https://github.com/photopea/photopea https://github.com/photopea/photopea

Jackim 4y ago
Photopea is not open source, it says that in the description of the repo. They use GitHub for feature requests and bug reports.
- dennis-tra 4y ago
  Sorry, you’re totally right, I just quickly searched for “photopea source” and found the github page.
app4soft 4y ago
Photopea is not OSS, it is freeware Web App.
- kyriakos 4y ago
  Ad supported. I think they got an ad free paid version. Been using it for years and I believe it covers over 90% of non professional photoshop use cases.
ImHereToVote 4y ago
Photopea will probably never have 32-bit support because of browser limitations. What a shame.

inDigiNeous 4y ago

I have a hard time seeing anything named "Gimp" ever becoming a great alternative for Photoshop. Names have a lot of meaning, you think about it constantly, if you are thinking about a crippled person unconsciously even while developing software, maybe that is why Gimp is in the state it is. Many Open Source projects are just named damn stupidly, like with the KDE suite does it really make any sense naming your projects starting with "K" just to follow the KDE ? Or with Gnome you have so many stupid project names, beginning with the whole name "Gnome". All I can think is a forest gnome when I think about that desktop environment. Maybe it's supposed to be Ge-nome, but who thinks it's a good idea to call a desktop environment a small dwarf like bearded old person .. Combine that with Gnome Gimp, you have a crippled forest gnome handling your image editing, nice. Everytime I try Linux and it's modern desktop environments, the application names just make me cringe, it's like somebody just decided that "Yeah hey naming conventions for software don't matter, just call it the terminal emulator "Kerminal" or whatever shit that suites the stupid naming scheme.

victornomad 4y ago
You are writing this from your english centric world vision. The world is big and most people dont care what's the meaning or if it even has a meaning...
therouwboat 4y ago
I associate gimp with that full body leather suit. Its weird when people complain about minor things like multiple windows or name when actually doing something with the program is much more complicated.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  >I associate gimp with that full body leather suit. Me too. As a non native English speaker I didn't think about that first, but then I saw Pulp Fiction.
  - asddubs 4y ago
    this is what gimp was named after to begin with (specifically in reference to pulp fiction). it used to even be called "the gimp" i believe. so it kind of stands out above the crowd of mediocre open source software names by being fully intentionally awful

HKH2 4y ago

Krita is great for drawing with a graphics tablet, especially with the pop-up palette. I don't miss Photoshop at all.

Silverback_VII 4y ago

Most people simply have no time to watch 20 amateurish tutorials just to get basic things done. Maybe it has changed but everytime I see gimp I'm reluctant to open it. too many bad memories... They should just copy what works.

prokoudine 4y ago
> Most people simply have no time to watch 20 amateurish tutorials just to get basic things done. There is this tutorial on YT right now: "How to Download and Install Adobe Photoshop CC 2021 Free Trial". It's got 755K views. Do you really think your YT tutorials argument holds any water? :)

KronisLV 4y ago

> We really need an open source alternative to Photoshop. I just don’t know if gimp will ever be it. I guess it depends on what you need it for. As someone who's a software developer and occasionally dabbles in video game development or some very basic design, GIMP is perfectly suitable for what I need. I actually haven't used Photoshop in years and don't really feel like anything at all is missing for my use cases. Things like sometimes creating images for my blog posts, or favicons for my sites. Or touching up photos or removing some details, or maybe creating some textures for a video game/visualization. GIMP is just there and works well enough. For even more basic (or batch) processing, I'd also recommend XnView: https://www.xnview.com/en/ https://www.xnview.com/en/ or IrfanView: https://www.irfanview.com/ https://www.irfanview.com/ That said, the quality of FOSS software is all over the place: * since the UI/UX revamp, I'd say that Blender is one of the better and more high quality packages out there, what FOSS *should* be like * software like GIMP, LibreOffice and Kdenlive take a middle spot: fully functional, decent quality, good enough to be a daily driver * software like Inkscape and OpenShot are at the bottom of the barrel: only workable if there are no alternatives, bad performance and unstable, bad UI/UX and so on

mikae1 4y ago

ADJUSTMENT LAYERS, ADJUSTMENT LAYERS, ADJUSTMENT LAYERS (as Steve Ballmer would've put it). For now I use Krita because... Well, adjustment layers.

hulitu 4y ago

One of the big problems of GIMP is startup time. Registering every plugin at every startup is plain stupid.

throwaway2037 4y ago
I have used a standard installation from Debian for years. Mine starts in about three seconds. Is that too slow? Also: How fast does Photoshop load? Surely slower than three seconds. Also: Have you considered contributing a patch to do background loading after GNU Image starts?

ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago

> We really need an open source alternative to Photoshop. I just don’t know if gimp will ever be it. If they are just, now, adding CMYK support (Photoshop has had CMYK for many years, as CMYK has been critical for printers), I suspect that you may be correct.

Shorel 4y ago

And it's because of the interface. The name of gimp doesn't matter. Functionalities and workflow matter.

devwastaken 4y ago

If gimp copied photoshops interface there would no be question it's a replacement for 99% of use cases. Unfortunately, Adobe owns that. Along with IP for many other features. Repeal software patents and software intellectual property, and we will have competition.