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That is frustrating, but when were you planning to pay? Couldn’t you have mailed it in? Suspended license driving is anti-social. Any law with a firm cutoff or

That is frustrating, but when were you planning to pay? Couldn’t you have mailed it in? Suspended license driving is anti-social. Any law with a firm cutoff or deadline, and no gradual increase of penalty, sucks for those who barely miss complying with it. There needs to be some kind of consequence, though.

throwaway22032 4y ago
Surely the antisocial thing is suspending someone's licence without telling them about it and over a 5mph speeding ticket...?
kaishiro 4y ago
I'd argue that the humiliation of arresting and imprisoning someone for a single speeding ticket is the only anti-social occurrence here.
coldtea 4y ago
>There needs to be some kind of consequence, though. No, there just need to be better laws - or at least, more fit to the "crime" response. In fact, if he was indeed "5 mph above the speed limit" he shouldn't even have been fined in the first place. Police can and should use discretion (and they often/mostly do, this was just a shitty move in a shitty district). Not to mention that, even given the fine was ok, there should have been an online/bank transfer way to pay...
- 1123581321 4y ago
  Separate issues. I said enough in my post to indicate that I am sympathetic regarding the overall situation.
djbebs 4y ago
Sorry but isn't the purpose of such licensing requirements to ensure that the roads are safe? If so, why would him having a debt to the state matter? Clearly him mailing the cash or not wouldn't change his risk profile for driving. The anti-social thing here is to leverage what is ostensibly a safety concern into a tool of compliance.
- 1123581321 4y ago
  Yes. Like the other responses, you’re only seeing the original ticket when replying to a comment about driving on a suspended license. As I alluded to, a gradual system of consequences building to suspension, or some other method of easing into or helping avoid the penalty state, would be more fair, especially for light offenses like the OP’s. That does not change that we expect people not to drive on public roads when they’re barred from using them.

throwaway22032 4y ago

Surely the antisocial thing is suspending someone's licence without telling them about it and over a 5mph speeding ticket...?

kaishiro 4y ago

I'd argue that the humiliation of arresting and imprisoning someone for a single speeding ticket is the only anti-social occurrence here.

coldtea 4y ago

>There needs to be some kind of consequence, though. No, there just need to be better laws - or at least, more fit to the "crime" response. In fact, if he was indeed "5 mph above the speed limit" he shouldn't even have been fined in the first place. Police can and should use discretion (and they often/mostly do, this was just a shitty move in a shitty district). Not to mention that, even given the fine was ok, there should have been an online/bank transfer way to pay...

1123581321 4y ago
Separate issues. I said enough in my post to indicate that I am sympathetic regarding the overall situation.

djbebs 4y ago

Sorry but isn't the purpose of such licensing requirements to ensure that the roads are safe? If so, why would him having a debt to the state matter? Clearly him mailing the cash or not wouldn't change his risk profile for driving. The anti-social thing here is to leverage what is ostensibly a safety concern into a tool of compliance.

1123581321 4y ago
Yes. Like the other responses, you’re only seeing the original ticket when replying to a comment about driving on a suspended license. As I alluded to, a gradual system of consequences building to suspension, or some other method of easing into or helping avoid the penalty state, would be more fair, especially for light offenses like the OP’s. That does not change that we expect people not to drive on public roads when they’re barred from using them.