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Honestly I think the thing that'll do more for startups in NYC than any initiative or a tech university satellite campus is the presence of Google (disclaimer:
by cletus 15y ago
Honestly I think the thing that'll do more for startups in NYC than any initiative or a tech university satellite campus is the presence of Google (disclaimer: I work for Google). It's already had an effect on startup locations and office vacancy rates [1].
I'm not sure what our exact numbers are here but you'd have to figure there are at least 1,000 engineers in this office. That's quite a pool of talent.
While the weather in particular is glorious in the Bay Area, NYC certainly does have its charms. In the Bay Area you're living in suburbia and commuting. There are of course significant startups in SF (particularly SoMA) so you can get the "city living" life if you happen to work for those but far more are located in Mountain View, Palo Alto, Los Altos, Cupertino, San Jose, etc.
Thing is, many people I know who live in SF still own cars. One big attraction of NYC is you simply don't need to own a car. Factor in a car and IMHO it's cheaper to live in Manhattan than SF (and many parts of the Bay Area).
What's more, I have a 7 minute walk to work.
That all being said, SV is in no danger of losing its place as the beating heart of tech. Even with an office this large (Google), the mothership in Mountain View still has an irresistible call and, in all honesty, for your career (at Google) you'd be better off there than anywhere else.
The other thing that will help (IMHO) is what a mess the finance industry is in and the fact that, generally speaking, it's a soul-destroying experience to work in finance (I speak from experience).
What New York could really benefit from is a homegrown huge ($5B+) success. Of course there's no real planning for that.
[1]: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204531404577050661264784408.html?mod=googlenews_wsj http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020453140457705...
- vaksel 15y agoI'd say having Google in NYC is probably a negative for startups. Most of the good talent gets soaked up by the big G, And your 7 minutes to work as an engineer, is actually a bad thing for startups. If a programmer lives in Manhattan(sub ~50s st), then he is paying ~$3000/mo for an apartment. If you are stuck with a $3K fixed cost every month, it's hard to quit a job to go do your own thing. Granted, you can always get a cheaper place, but most programmers with 2-3+ years experience seem to be making ~$100K+ in NYC, so they tend to justify spending a bit more to be closer to work
- JayWilmont 15y agoHe could be paying far less than that for rent: I live on the upper west side of Manhattan and pay $1000/month and had a 15 minute commute before I switched jobs. Further, somebody could also live and work in Brooklyn and pay more like $700/month in rent. (All of these figures are for apartments with roommates).
- localhost3000 15y agoi can assure you that it does not cost $3k / mo to live below 50th st. that is a massive exaggeration.
- vaksel 15y agoI started looking recently, and 2-3K seems to be the general price range for decent 1 bedrooms. Sure you can pay less, but that usually involves living in the closet or in a rundown old building...and even then you only save a few hundred bucks. Seems like prices really shot up recently, I looked about 5 months ago, and the rates were quite a bit cheaper