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What he’s saying is extremely muddled, I think he’s just ham fisted-ly trying to say “the truth got out there eventually” rather than “our process was as good a

What he’s saying is extremely muddled, I think he’s just ham fisted-ly trying to say “the truth got out there eventually” rather than “our process was as good as a criminal trial and whatever the FBI says constitutes absolute truth until it’s disproven”. I’m really not sure what Facebook should do in this situation, it’s really tricky for them.

hotpotamus 4y ago
What truth got out? This still seems like an enormous effort to prove that Hunter Biden is a dirtbag, which was already proven for years. Like didn't he sleep with his brother's widow and stuff like that? Obviously they want to use the sins of the son to tarnish the father, but if there was actual proof of some sort of wrong-doing, it'd still be the number one story on Fox News every day. So really you just get to complain that Facebook and Twitter didn't run it the way you wanted them to. And sure you can complain about that, but it seems pretty disingenuous to then claim that you believe in free speech if you're also trying to compel private companies to carry whatever story you prefer.
- andy_ppp 4y ago
  If this was a scandal involving one of the Trump children most of the media would be having a fit the FBI got involved like this… anyway I have literally no opinion on what the FBI (after affecting the election last time) or Facebook should do in this situation, it’s really tricky to decide what is best.
  - hotpotamus 4y ago
    I have no idea what a scandal involving the Trump children would even mean either. Didn't Jared Kushner (who actually served in the White House) just get $2 billion from Saudi Arabia? And that was cool? So how many billions should Hunter get? And why should I care what the media (whoever that is) has a fit over?
    - andy_ppp 4y ago
      I just think it’s useful to put yourself in the opposite position and play devils advocate to understand their arguments and reasoning. Unpopular on the internet I know. I didn’t know Jared was given $2bn that’s pretty brazen and should be illegal.
      - hotpotamus 4y ago
        Does the reasoning go beyond "it's ok when I do it"? Jared Kushner has been given things his entire life, from his Harvard entrance and degree (paid for by his father who actually spent time in prison thanks to Chris Christie) to his stint as a white house special advisor. And I'm supposed to believe that anyone who thought all that was OK has a problem with Hunter Biden getting a salary from a company in Ukraine?
- sumedh 4y ago
  > Like didn't he sleep with his brother's widow and stuff like that? Why does that matter if they both wanted to do it?
  - hotpotamus 4y ago
    Would you be happy about your brother sleeping with your wife after you die? I mean, I've got an uncle-father in my ancestry, but it's considered gauche these days.
    - deepsquirrelnet 4y ago
      I don’t believe that I can be upset about anything after I die. Life is for the living.
      - hotpotamus 4y ago
        What about before you die?
- fnfjcu7 4y ago
  When the father starts boasting at conferences on video about using Whitehouse aid money to extort Ukraine into removing the prosecutor going after his son I think maybe the sons business dealings found on said laptop referencing including money for the father multiple times might be worth taking into account? All this was on Fox. A lot. Maybe you weren't watching?
  - mint2 4y ago
    Maybe someone was watching too much fox, that account based on fox leaves out a massive fact and focuses on the coincidence - the prosecutor was universally regarded as corrupt by all top nations and Biden’s son had nothing to do with that.
    - fnfjcu7 4y ago

hotpotamus 4y ago

What truth got out? This still seems like an enormous effort to prove that Hunter Biden is a dirtbag, which was already proven for years. Like didn't he sleep with his brother's widow and stuff like that? Obviously they want to use the sins of the son to tarnish the father, but if there was actual proof of some sort of wrong-doing, it'd still be the number one story on Fox News every day. So really you just get to complain that Facebook and Twitter didn't run it the way you wanted them to. And sure you can complain about that, but it seems pretty disingenuous to then claim that you believe in free speech if you're also trying to compel private companies to carry whatever story you prefer.

andy_ppp 4y ago
If this was a scandal involving one of the Trump children most of the media would be having a fit the FBI got involved like this… anyway I have literally no opinion on what the FBI (after affecting the election last time) or Facebook should do in this situation, it’s really tricky to decide what is best.
- hotpotamus 4y ago
  I have no idea what a scandal involving the Trump children would even mean either. Didn't Jared Kushner (who actually served in the White House) just get $2 billion from Saudi Arabia? And that was cool? So how many billions should Hunter get? And why should I care what the media (whoever that is) has a fit over?
  - andy_ppp 4y ago
    I just think it’s useful to put yourself in the opposite position and play devils advocate to understand their arguments and reasoning. Unpopular on the internet I know. I didn’t know Jared was given $2bn that’s pretty brazen and should be illegal.
    - hotpotamus 4y ago
      Does the reasoning go beyond "it's ok when I do it"? Jared Kushner has been given things his entire life, from his Harvard entrance and degree (paid for by his father who actually spent time in prison thanks to Chris Christie) to his stint as a white house special advisor. And I'm supposed to believe that anyone who thought all that was OK has a problem with Hunter Biden getting a salary from a company in Ukraine?
sumedh 4y ago
> Like didn't he sleep with his brother's widow and stuff like that? Why does that matter if they both wanted to do it?
- hotpotamus 4y ago
  Would you be happy about your brother sleeping with your wife after you die? I mean, I've got an uncle-father in my ancestry, but it's considered gauche these days.
  - deepsquirrelnet 4y ago
    I don’t believe that I can be upset about anything after I die. Life is for the living.
    - hotpotamus 4y ago
      What about before you die?
fnfjcu7 4y ago
When the father starts boasting at conferences on video about using Whitehouse aid money to extort Ukraine into removing the prosecutor going after his son I think maybe the sons business dealings found on said laptop referencing including money for the father multiple times might be worth taking into account? All this was on Fox. A lot. Maybe you weren't watching?
- mint2 4y ago
  Maybe someone was watching too much fox, that account based on fox leaves out a massive fact and focuses on the coincidence - the prosecutor was universally regarded as corrupt by all top nations and Biden’s son had nothing to do with that.
  - fnfjcu7 4y ago