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Rogan kept putting words in his mouth. He kept insinuating that Facebook and the FBI talked specifically about the Hunter Biden laptop story, when Zuckerberg di

Rogan kept putting words in his mouth. He kept insinuating that Facebook and the FBI talked specifically about the Hunter Biden laptop story, when Zuckerberg did not say that at all. Zuckerberg said the FBI warned them to be on high alert for propaganda. Facebook's judgment after that conversation was that the Hunter Biden laptop story fit that profile. As for the story itself, I don't know all of the ins or outs, but my understanding is that it doesn't amount to anything, and certainly nothing in comparison to the entanglements of the Trump family. I think Facebook did the right thing. It's not the obligation of social media sites to facilitate October surprises. They do not have to allow themselves to be a tool to gin up smoke. Ironically, the FBI itself was played in just such a way in 2016.

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baskethead 4y ago
- meroes 4y ago
  Seems extremely boring to me.
- tmaly 4y ago
  I heard they have a moving coming out about it. I saw the trailer and had to laugh.
- seanmcdirmid 4y ago
  And the only evidence we have of that is from what a blind computer repairman saw on a laptop that he promptly lost. You can’t make this stuff up, no one would believe it.
  - CapricornNoble 4y ago
    There's also his iPhone leak from a few months ago as corroborating evidence: https://news.yahoo.com/secret-responds-graphic-hunter-biden-203752983.html https://news.yahoo.com/secret-responds-graphic-hunter-biden-... Many of the files posted by 4chan were already found on Biden’s abandoned laptop via an iPhone XS backup, according to the Washington Examiner. Former Secret Service agent and cyber forensics expert Konstantinos “Gus” Dimitrelos previously told the outlet that the contents of the iPhone are authentic. “Based on my analysis of the iPhone, I conclude the same results as my analysis of the MacBook Pro Laptop hard drive and iCloud synced data. The person who owns and operates this iPhone XS is Robert Hunter Biden,” Dimitrelos said, according to the outlet.
- lokar 4y ago
  Is this a comment from the presidency of Bush the 1st?
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  - baskethead 4y ago
    The Bush family are war criminals.
    - lokar 4y ago
      Direct family members of a president should be barred from federal office (president, vice president, cabinet, congress) for life.
- cromwellian 4y ago
  Jared Kushner negotiated selling tens of billions of high tech weaponry to the Saudis, and then ended up with a bunch of Saudis renting empty apartments in his failed real estate project, at the same time he got a $2 billion check from the Middle East. Ivanka negotiated trademarks with China at the same time she was literally in China with her father’s government negotiating Chinese trade deals. They made over $100 million while they were working in the White House. And this never concerned you?
  - jacobn 4y ago
    Not the person you asked, but both seem like they should be cause for concern…
  - ducktales 4y ago
    I'm sorry, where was the Trump clan mentioned in the parent or GP post? Whataboutism does not contribute to the discussion, and it is presumptuous to assume the original poster does not find those things concerning, as well. To me personally, both are very concerning, and it's exhausting to me that the political class gets a pass on this behavior
    - notahacker 4y ago
      Whataboutism is relevant when the story is a carefully orchestrated dump of a mixture of real and false information by one political faction intended to swing an election with a "Vote Sideshow Bob for President" message. There's not much doubt that Hunter Biden got board seats because he could brag about his deep understanding of and connections with the top level of US politics, and that he used illegal drugs extensively, but we knew that without the laptop.
    - pstuart 4y ago
      The laptop story is the original whataboutism. Again, the whole point of the laptop story is to smear the opposition and anybody who is concerned only about corruption in one party is not really concerned about corruption.
  - baskethead 4y ago
- dqpb 4y ago
  Eh, I would not call Joe Biden the most powerful person in the world.
  - kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
    Whomever is running him via teleprompter, though...they're pretty powerful.
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rendall 4y ago
> I don't know all of the ins or outs, but my understanding is that it doesn't amount to anything, and certainly nothing in comparison to the entanglements of the Trump family. This is a pretty astounding sentence, but I would let it go, except that I see this all the time. It reads like a dismissal of the importance of the story because there is nothing that matches the unique danger of "the Trump family". Is that fair? Bear with me for a second as I ask, respectfully, How would you know? Perhaps it is true that Trump is a unique evil that must be defeated by extraordinary measures, but whence comes this information? If you rely, for your mental picture of what is good and evil, of what is important and what can be dismissed, on the same institutions that suppress true stories and promote false ones, then how even are you making these choices? Further, remember, whatever powers are used against the guy you don't like this election, can be used against the guy you do like down the road.
- peter422 4y ago
  Joe Biden had been in the public eye for 50 years, releasing tax returns, etc. Hunter Biden was not running for office. Perhaps it is possible that this laptop, at the time completely unverified, had some magic smoking gun to bring down a 50 year career, magically showing up in a random place 10 days before the election. But obviously the much, much more likely situation is that it was either fake or insignificant. If it were my social network and I cared about my responsibility to society, I don’t see why not promoting this story is at all controversial. It isn’t like Facebook is the entire internet, people still were reading about it.
  - rendall 4y ago
    If the question were Was it reasonable to suppress the laptop story? this would be an excellent answer. The question I asked is: If you rely, for your mental picture of what is... important and what can be dismissed, on the same institutions that suppress true stories and promote false ones, then how even are you making these choices?
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baskethead 4y ago

meroes 4y ago
Seems extremely boring to me.
tmaly 4y ago
I heard they have a moving coming out about it. I saw the trailer and had to laugh.
seanmcdirmid 4y ago
And the only evidence we have of that is from what a blind computer repairman saw on a laptop that he promptly lost. You can’t make this stuff up, no one would believe it.
- CapricornNoble 4y ago
  There's also his iPhone leak from a few months ago as corroborating evidence: https://news.yahoo.com/secret-responds-graphic-hunter-biden-203752983.html https://news.yahoo.com/secret-responds-graphic-hunter-biden-... Many of the files posted by 4chan were already found on Biden’s abandoned laptop via an iPhone XS backup, according to the Washington Examiner. Former Secret Service agent and cyber forensics expert Konstantinos “Gus” Dimitrelos previously told the outlet that the contents of the iPhone are authentic. “Based on my analysis of the iPhone, I conclude the same results as my analysis of the MacBook Pro Laptop hard drive and iCloud synced data. The person who owns and operates this iPhone XS is Robert Hunter Biden,” Dimitrelos said, according to the outlet.
lokar 4y ago
Is this a comment from the presidency of Bush the 1st?
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- baskethead 4y ago
  The Bush family are war criminals.
  - lokar 4y ago
    Direct family members of a president should be barred from federal office (president, vice president, cabinet, congress) for life.
cromwellian 4y ago
Jared Kushner negotiated selling tens of billions of high tech weaponry to the Saudis, and then ended up with a bunch of Saudis renting empty apartments in his failed real estate project, at the same time he got a $2 billion check from the Middle East. Ivanka negotiated trademarks with China at the same time she was literally in China with her father’s government negotiating Chinese trade deals. They made over $100 million while they were working in the White House. And this never concerned you?
- jacobn 4y ago
  Not the person you asked, but both seem like they should be cause for concern…
- ducktales 4y ago
  I'm sorry, where was the Trump clan mentioned in the parent or GP post? Whataboutism does not contribute to the discussion, and it is presumptuous to assume the original poster does not find those things concerning, as well. To me personally, both are very concerning, and it's exhausting to me that the political class gets a pass on this behavior
  - notahacker 4y ago
    Whataboutism is relevant when the story is a carefully orchestrated dump of a mixture of real and false information by one political faction intended to swing an election with a "Vote Sideshow Bob for President" message. There's not much doubt that Hunter Biden got board seats because he could brag about his deep understanding of and connections with the top level of US politics, and that he used illegal drugs extensively, but we knew that without the laptop.
  - pstuart 4y ago
    The laptop story is the original whataboutism. Again, the whole point of the laptop story is to smear the opposition and anybody who is concerned only about corruption in one party is not really concerned about corruption.
- baskethead 4y ago
dqpb 4y ago
Eh, I would not call Joe Biden the most powerful person in the world.
- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
  Whomever is running him via teleprompter, though...they're pretty powerful.

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rendall 4y ago

> I don't know all of the ins or outs, but my understanding is that it doesn't amount to anything, and certainly nothing in comparison to the entanglements of the Trump family. This is a pretty astounding sentence, but I would let it go, except that I see this all the time. It reads like a dismissal of the importance of the story because there is nothing that matches the unique danger of "the Trump family". Is that fair? Bear with me for a second as I ask, respectfully, How would you know? Perhaps it is true that Trump is a unique evil that must be defeated by extraordinary measures, but whence comes this information? If you rely, for your mental picture of what is good and evil, of what is important and what can be dismissed, on the same institutions that suppress true stories and promote false ones, then how even are you making these choices? Further, remember, whatever powers are used against the guy you don't like this election, can be used against the guy you do like down the road.

peter422 4y ago
Joe Biden had been in the public eye for 50 years, releasing tax returns, etc. Hunter Biden was not running for office. Perhaps it is possible that this laptop, at the time completely unverified, had some magic smoking gun to bring down a 50 year career, magically showing up in a random place 10 days before the election. But obviously the much, much more likely situation is that it was either fake or insignificant. If it were my social network and I cared about my responsibility to society, I don’t see why not promoting this story is at all controversial. It isn’t like Facebook is the entire internet, people still were reading about it.
- rendall 4y ago
  If the question were Was it reasonable to suppress the laptop story? this would be an excellent answer. The question I asked is: If you rely, for your mental picture of what is... important and what can be dismissed, on the same institutions that suppress true stories and promote false ones, then how even are you making these choices?
  - pstuart 4y ago