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I love scheme but I hate emacs. So I just never program in scheme.

by LAC-Tech 4y ago

herdrick 4y ago
This works great for any Scheme, I think: https://docs.racket-lang.org/drracket/ https://docs.racket-lang.org/drracket/
- rawoke083600 4y ago
  Last time I checked, it didn't have true REPL development ? i.e you couldn't "just eval" a function ?
  - avhon1 4y ago
    DrRacket has had a REPL at least since 2013 (which was when I first used it).
    - bmitc 4y ago
      I think the commenter meant sending a specific function definition to the REPL, like in Common Lisp, Clojure, or F#'s REPLs, without re-evaluating the entire file, like how DrRacket does it. I think Racket has some functionality that allows it though, and I think the Racket Emacs mode supports it. I am not aware of how to do it with DrRacket.
      - rawoke083600 4y ago
        Yes exactly ! Sory for confusion.
- bmitc 4y ago
  It works for Schemes that DrRacket supports or ones implemented via #lang. I don't think Chez Scheme is one of those.
  - rscho 4y ago
    There's actually a plugin that lets one use Chez directly from DrRacket.
    - bmitc 4y ago
      Got a link?
      - rscho 4y ago
        I used the plugin to run the Chez version of minikanren some time ago. I think it was this one: https://github.com/Syntacticlosure/chez-runner https://github.com/Syntacticlosure/chez-runner There might be more on the racket package server.
ephaeton 4y ago
so does doug hoyte, apparantly, which is why the final words of 'let over lambda' are dedicated to using vi instead of emacs to hack on lisps.
- wawjgreen 4y ago
  what's with all these y's in their names! hoyte, dybvig
- LAC-Tech 4y ago
  Right, but what about normal text editors?
  - regularfry 4y ago
    `ed` doesn't really integrate with anything other than stdio.
  - vindarel 4y ago
    In CL land, we have good support with Atom, Jupyter notebooks, Sublime, VSCode (new plugin, hard-ish to install), and to a lower extent Geany, Eclipse (basic support) and other terminal REPLs. https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/editor-support.html https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/editor-support.ht... Not to forget Lem, an emacs-like CL editor that works out of the box for CL, but also for other languages (Python, Rust…).
jaimie 4y ago
Ironically, Dybvig uses vim.
- agumonkey 4y ago
  Where did he talk about it ? I hope he uses a pairing / structured edition plugin. Otherwise I really want to talk about things with him.
- jb1991 4y ago
  Why is that ironic? Lots of developers in all languages (including lisps) use vim. I don't see any irony in that.
rmind 4y ago
https://docs.racket-lang.org/guide/Vim.html https://docs.racket-lang.org/guide/Vim.html

I love scheme but I hate emacs. So I just never program in scheme.

herdrick 4y ago

This works great for any Scheme, I think: https://docs.racket-lang.org/drracket/ https://docs.racket-lang.org/drracket/

rawoke083600 4y ago
Last time I checked, it didn't have true REPL development ? i.e you couldn't "just eval" a function ?
- avhon1 4y ago
  DrRacket has had a REPL at least since 2013 (which was when I first used it).
  - bmitc 4y ago
    I think the commenter meant sending a specific function definition to the REPL, like in Common Lisp, Clojure, or F#'s REPLs, without re-evaluating the entire file, like how DrRacket does it. I think Racket has some functionality that allows it though, and I think the Racket Emacs mode supports it. I am not aware of how to do it with DrRacket.
    - rawoke083600 4y ago
      Yes exactly ! Sory for confusion.
bmitc 4y ago
It works for Schemes that DrRacket supports or ones implemented via #lang. I don't think Chez Scheme is one of those.
- rscho 4y ago
  There's actually a plugin that lets one use Chez directly from DrRacket.
  - bmitc 4y ago
    Got a link?
    - rscho 4y ago
      I used the plugin to run the Chez version of minikanren some time ago. I think it was this one: https://github.com/Syntacticlosure/chez-runner https://github.com/Syntacticlosure/chez-runner There might be more on the racket package server.

ephaeton 4y ago

so does doug hoyte, apparantly, which is why the final words of 'let over lambda' are dedicated to using vi instead of emacs to hack on lisps.

wawjgreen 4y ago
what's with all these y's in their names! hoyte, dybvig
LAC-Tech 4y ago
Right, but what about normal text editors?
- regularfry 4y ago
  `ed` doesn't really integrate with anything other than stdio.
- vindarel 4y ago
  In CL land, we have good support with Atom, Jupyter notebooks, Sublime, VSCode (new plugin, hard-ish to install), and to a lower extent Geany, Eclipse (basic support) and other terminal REPLs. https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/editor-support.html https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/editor-support.ht... Not to forget Lem, an emacs-like CL editor that works out of the box for CL, but also for other languages (Python, Rust…).

jaimie 4y ago

Ironically, Dybvig uses vim.

agumonkey 4y ago
Where did he talk about it ? I hope he uses a pairing / structured edition plugin. Otherwise I really want to talk about things with him.
jb1991 4y ago
Why is that ironic? Lots of developers in all languages (including lisps) use vim. I don't see any irony in that.

rmind 4y ago

https://docs.racket-lang.org/guide/Vim.html https://docs.racket-lang.org/guide/Vim.html