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> Why does 1Password always bring so much controversy in discussion forums? It's because 1Password was targeted at tech enthusiasts at the beginning and has mi

> Why does 1Password always bring so much controversy in discussion forums? It's because 1Password was targeted at tech enthusiasts at the beginning and has migrated to a mass-market product over time. The desires of the tech enthusiast group differ (on average) from the goals of a mass-market consumer product. Every time they switch away from something enthusiasts value (perpetual licenses for a specific version, optimized native apps) the early adopters get upset. The average user doesn't care all that much. > If you’re making six figures writing software and think $3/month for a cornerstone of your security suite is offensive, you need to grow the fuck up, frankly. For me, it's not about the cost. It's about managing one more subscription. My credit card bill is full of little monthly subscriptions, and at this point I'm tired of adding new subscriptions at every turn. Subscriptions aren't a big deal for the first 5-10 services, but once you're juggling 20+ recurring charges for things that don't really need to be recurring charges, it's tiresome. I would gladly pay a premium to have a one-and-done license (for a specific version, just like they did in the past) that didn't add yet another monthly payment for me to manage and another system I need to update when I get a new credit card.

code_biologist 4y ago
Also, my password manager is a critical part of my digital life. It's not ok for it to go down. What happens when payments fail for whatever reason? Shit happens. Should I regress to making up passwords on the spot and writing them down? I'm very happy to pay $50+ every year or two for a password manager with great UX and cross device support. It is not ok if any functionality is contingent on a subscription though. I really like the Jetbrains model, where if your subscription lapses your software just keeps on working — no updates though.
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- 1123581321 4y ago
  You can still read and export your data if your payments lapse to the point that your account freezes. They just don’t let you modify the data.
- quantumduck 4y ago
  It's not like 1password is gonna delete your data or block you from accessing your data if payment fails and your account is frozen. It just gets into read-only mode. They have a fairly generous policy is case you'd account is frozen: https://support.1password.com/frozen-account/ https://support.1password.com/frozen-account/
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  > Also, my password manager is a critical part of my digital life. What happens when my payments fail for whatever reason? Shit happens. This is why I only use password managers that save as KeePass databases, like Strongbox or KeePassXC.
squarefoot 4y ago
> Subscriptions aren't a big deal for the first 5-10 services, but once you're juggling 20+ recurring charges for things that don't really need to be recurring charges, it's tiresome. The world is going in this direction, however: everything is turning into Cloud+SaaS to charge for use instead of bill once and forget. The next big thing will very likely be a service that makes extremely easy to aggregate and manage the 465 or maybe 3044 micropayments per year one will need to use his compu... er... stupid terminal a few years from now.
- macintux 4y ago
  I’m already grateful to Apple for consolidating so many of my subscriptions into one interface. So much easier to manage.

code_biologist 4y ago

Also, my password manager is a critical part of my digital life. It's not ok for it to go down. What happens when payments fail for whatever reason? Shit happens. Should I regress to making up passwords on the spot and writing them down? I'm very happy to pay $50+ every year or two for a password manager with great UX and cross device support. It is not ok if any functionality is contingent on a subscription though. I really like the Jetbrains model, where if your subscription lapses your software just keeps on working — no updates though.

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1123581321 4y ago
You can still read and export your data if your payments lapse to the point that your account freezes. They just don’t let you modify the data.
quantumduck 4y ago
It's not like 1password is gonna delete your data or block you from accessing your data if payment fails and your account is frozen. It just gets into read-only mode. They have a fairly generous policy is case you'd account is frozen: https://support.1password.com/frozen-account/ https://support.1password.com/frozen-account/
lotsofpulp 4y ago
> Also, my password manager is a critical part of my digital life. What happens when my payments fail for whatever reason? Shit happens. This is why I only use password managers that save as KeePass databases, like Strongbox or KeePassXC.

squarefoot 4y ago

> Subscriptions aren't a big deal for the first 5-10 services, but once you're juggling 20+ recurring charges for things that don't really need to be recurring charges, it's tiresome. The world is going in this direction, however: everything is turning into Cloud+SaaS to charge for use instead of bill once and forget. The next big thing will very likely be a service that makes extremely easy to aggregate and manage the 465 or maybe 3044 micropayments per year one will need to use his compu... er... stupid terminal a few years from now.

macintux 4y ago
I’m already grateful to Apple for consolidating so many of my subscriptions into one interface. So much easier to manage.