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It's a rapid prototyping platform, releasing it as production is just bad. Releasing it as production is disrespectful to the users, so given the choice of disr

by burnte 4y ago

It's a rapid prototyping platform, releasing it as production is just bad. Releasing it as production is disrespectful to the users, so given the choice of disrespecting the users or the devs, I'd say the devs deserve it more for making user-hostile choices.

szundi 4y ago
Considering the vast success of a lot of Electron based software like vscode and all others this comment seems odd.
trs8080 4y ago
> It's a rapid prototyping platform Citation needed. If my competitors want to waste time and resources hiring people to create 3-4 versions of the same app for different devices/OSes, I gladly welcome it. I'll be a well established incumbent by the time they put out their MVP. If I can solve an important business need, my customers don't care if I use 120mb of RAM to do it. They certainly don't see it as "disrespectful" if I can save/make them money in the long run.
- roustem 4y ago
  At 1Password we actually did not mind developing separately for every platform. It's been done for years. We build it for ourselves and don't mind putting extra work for better experience. However, the problem is that you end up with apps that behave differently, miss features, and have different bugs across platforms. Drives people crazy. Just one example: 1Password 7 for Windows shows different search results in a different order compared to the Mac app. Obviously it could be fixed but then a different issue pops up somewhere else. Instead of adding new features we spent time fixing (making?) various bugs in different ways. The new 1Password 8 still has a ton of platform-specific code but the core is the same across all desktop and mobile apps. It allows us to get the new features out faster and also spend time on platform-specific code.
jensvdh 4y ago
What a bad take. Multiple multi-billion dollar companies are built on the back of Electron. Is it the most performant? No. Does your average user care? No.
throwaway675309 4y ago
Electron apps can be written well, VS code is a great example. The majority of my customers use the electron versions of my apps, and 99% of them don't even know what electron is. So in the meantime, I don't really give a crap what the average angsty passive aggressive self-entitled developer thinks about the underpinning framework that my products are written with since frankly, you're not really the target demographic. (For most software).

by burnte 4y ago

szundi 4y ago

Considering the vast success of a lot of Electron based software like vscode and all others this comment seems odd.

trs8080 4y ago

> It's a rapid prototyping platform Citation needed. If my competitors want to waste time and resources hiring people to create 3-4 versions of the same app for different devices/OSes, I gladly welcome it. I'll be a well established incumbent by the time they put out their MVP. If I can solve an important business need, my customers don't care if I use 120mb of RAM to do it. They certainly don't see it as "disrespectful" if I can save/make them money in the long run.

roustem 4y ago
At 1Password we actually did not mind developing separately for every platform. It's been done for years. We build it for ourselves and don't mind putting extra work for better experience. However, the problem is that you end up with apps that behave differently, miss features, and have different bugs across platforms. Drives people crazy. Just one example: 1Password 7 for Windows shows different search results in a different order compared to the Mac app. Obviously it could be fixed but then a different issue pops up somewhere else. Instead of adding new features we spent time fixing (making?) various bugs in different ways. The new 1Password 8 still has a ton of platform-specific code but the core is the same across all desktop and mobile apps. It allows us to get the new features out faster and also spend time on platform-specific code.

jensvdh 4y ago

What a bad take. Multiple multi-billion dollar companies are built on the back of Electron. Is it the most performant? No. Does your average user care? No.

throwaway675309 4y ago

Electron apps can be written well, VS code is a great example. The majority of my customers use the electron versions of my apps, and 99% of them don't even know what electron is. So in the meantime, I don't really give a crap what the average angsty passive aggressive self-entitled developer thinks about the underpinning framework that my products are written with since frankly, you're not really the target demographic. (For most software).