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> So, I don't see what the big push is to get people back in the office. It's interesting to me that so many people post their amazement at why employers (mor
by asdajksah2123 4y ago
> So, I don't see what the big push is to get people back in the office.
It's interesting to me that so many people post their amazement at why employers (more specifically, middle and upper management) would want employees back to office, without actually thinking about why. So let's try that. Here are some possibilities:
1) They are sadists who just like to make life worse for their employees. But this makes little sense because it means that the middle managers, upper management, etc.'s lives are also miserable because they will also need to come into office.
2) They are control freaks who just want to control their employees. Even assuming this is broadly true across the majority of companies, it's fairly evident that online tools provide far more control than anything in person. But let's keep this as a possibility.
3) They want to save costs. Doesn't pan out. Getting rid of expensive office space, and offloading the rental, electricity, internet, etc. costs onto the employees seems much cheaper.
4) They are resistant to change. Also doesn't make sense. All these companies made massive changes within the span of a few weeks to ensure everyone can work remotely. If anything, bringing people into the office is the change.
5) They wrongly believe that employees would be more efficient in the office. This is a possibility.
6) They correctly believe that employees would be more efficient in the office. Also a possibility. Also, the fact that tech firms like Google and Facebook, which have some of the most sophisticated employee tracking/measuring systems were among the first to push for RTO there may be some data behind this, although the accuracy of the data depends on how it's being measured.
7) They just want to hang out with the only friends they have. People at work. Does not track either. Why not use the cost savings of RTO to have weekly or biweekly meetups if this is what they want.
8) They think that employees will be easier to retain if they bring them to the office. Doesn't make sense since so many have resisted coming to office.
9) They are worried that with remote work the more expensive US employees will be easier to replace and they don't want to fire their friends/colleagues. This can be a possibility but seems too "emotional".
Of these options that I could think of right now the following seem possible.
1) They are control freaks who need people to be around to be physically.
2) They wrongly believe employees are more effective in the office.
3) They rightly believe employees are more effective in the office.
4) They are sentimental and don't want to make it easier to fire their friends/colleagues.
Any other ideas? Why are companies insisting on RTO if it's such a slam dunk?
- nr2x 4y agoI think it’s the managers who are worried about employees being more productive without “oversight” - who needs to crack the whip?
- cyanydeez 4y agoI think they're more worried that employees will demonstrate no need for oversight, cutting the management class drastically
- writeslowly 4y ago#4 (general caution/conservatism) also seems believable to me. If things were going very well pre-covid (like if you’re a Google or Facebook), and you don’t know how much of that was attributable to the office environment for your particular company and processes, it’s less risky to RTO now and avoid the unknowns associated with transitioning to permanent remote work vs trying to undo things a few years from now. And if there’s too much pushback they can easily just not push RTO anymore
- fancyfredbot 4y agoThey may be aware that if their colleagues get fired, then they probably will too. They may be thinking that they'll be competing for jobs with people in lower cost of living locations and that this is likely to affect their career earnings and/or ability to stay in their current high cost location. They may just be lazy and find their job easier in the office. Note these are all entirely selfish and nothing to do with whether the employees are more productive - I think this kind of explanation is more likely to be true!
- Scoundreller 4y agoI’ve often had some experience of: senior manager that resides in nice neighbourhood near the office (purchased with downpayment after “frugally saving” for 2 years on starting salary) can’t understand why their staff dread trips to the office.
- 6510 4y agoIn employee management your reputation, promotions and salary depend on the number of minions you command, how much the minions earn and how fancy the office building looks.