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Slackmoji has been sunset due to cease and desist (2018)

54 points by rising-sky 4y ago

joshstrange 4y ago
Salesforce sure is firing on all cylinders today... /s EDIT: I was confused about the timeline of this, this post is from 2018 (before Salesforce bought them. Salesforce still sucks but this isn't something they were responsible for)
- gkoberger 4y ago
  This was from before Salesforce bought them (2018).
  - joshstrange 4y ago
    Edited, thank you for the clarification. With the Heroku stuff and the Salesforce/Slack PTO/vacation stuff from a few months ago I just assumed this was something new.
donkarma 4y ago
if discord launched a business version slack would be gone in a weeks time. not sure why people can't use IRC anyways unless they have ADHD when their screen isnt full of random colours and pictures and cant work without it
- tony_cannistra 4y ago
  gosh, simply cannot agree w/ this take. perhaps I'm a discord luddite, but there's just no way the Average Business User will ever figure out discord. I mean, thread replies in the main conversation by default? Come on.
  - joshstrange 4y ago
    > I mean, thread replies in the main conversation by default? Come on. Personally I'm a huge fan of this and I hate Slack's threads, it's where discussion goes to die. If you need to break off then just create a group for the people who need to have input and take it out of the main channels. I use Discord replies almost daily while I avoid Slack's threads like the plague.
    - oneplane 4y ago
      For us and our clients it's the other way around. Slack's threads work, everyone else's threads suck (Teams and Discord included, but Teams is even worse than Discord).
    - tony_cannistra 4y ago
      Isn't the whole point of threads to "create a group for the people who need to have input?"
- mattl 4y ago
  are you talking about a private IRC server or using a public one?
- strictnein 4y ago
  Discord has a significant malware problem. Threat actors use their CDNs for malware storage and Discord has been very lax in addressing this. A lot of companies don't allow it to be installed and block Discord and its CDNs because of it.
  - spicybright 4y ago
    This is my first time hearing anything like this. Do you have any articles or citations that show this?
    - strictnein 4y ago
      Some examples: https://threatpost.com/discord-malware-researchers/168096/ https://threatpost.com/discord-malware-researchers/168096/ https://news.sophos.com/en-us/2021/07/22/malware-increasingly-targets-discord-for-abuse/ https://news.sophos.com/en-us/2021/07/22/malware-increasingl... https://thenewstack.io/roblox-and-discord-become-virus-vectors-for-new-pypi-malware/ https://thenewstack.io/roblox-and-discord-become-virus-vecto...
- avisser 4y ago
  I bet Compliance is the #1 thing preventing a corp from adopting IRC.
- nerdjon 4y ago
  I really don't think discord has any advantage over slack. I still can't log into multiple discords in the same client (for when I want completely separate use cases). Also the spread of Teams has proved that the product can be... bad... and still used by everyone because its free or bundled with something they pay for.
zorlack 4y ago
Sunsets are gradual...
- oneplane 4y ago
  This is from 2018
spicybright 4y ago
Why do this? Slackmoji just improves the platform for free. If it's branding just change the name.
- deleted 4y ago
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jamespullar 4y ago
Looks like you can still use https://discordmojis.com/ https://discordmojis.com/ (at least for now) which was always mostly a mirror of Slackmoji.
- filmgirlcw 4y ago
  Slackmojis.com still works. This was Slackmoji.com, which is different. It was an app that made it easier to upload custom emoji to Slack, rather than using their interface.
CodesInChaos 4y ago
Are there any details? Was the C&D sent by slack, if yes why? Trademark violation? Or perhaps by the copyright holder of some emoji that were used without permission?
- gkoberger 4y ago
  Here's a snippet from the email, which quotes their Brand Guidelines: "You're entitled to say that your website or application is integrated with Slack (we like people integrating with Slack!), but please don't use the Slack marks as part of the name of your company, application, product, or service, or in any logo you create."
djbusby 4y ago
Plug for Mattermost. Easy, self-hosted and no disruption from groups fighting over profit/property. Threads are pretty OK, for those that use them (I don't)
gkoberger 4y ago
Oh hi! I'm the creator of this. Slack doesn't deserve any hate here... also, it happened in 2018! I created this manyyyy years ago, since finding/uploading new emojis was so clunky. It's so weird to see it here now. This whole thing happened in 2018, so this isn't new. They just wanted me to change the name (fair enough!). I always meant to redo it with their new emoji API (so it didn't need a Chrome extension) and rename it; I just never got around to it. Plus, their emoji support got better (they used to reject large emojis rather than resize, didn't have newer emojis, they didn't have an API for adding emojis, etc), so a lot of the features became much less important :) The email from their lawyer had a bunch of scary legalese, but here's the friendly part from him: "Please understand that we are not interested in squelching creativity or stopping people from encouraging the use of our platform. However, our name and our brand are very important symbols of trust for our customers and we need to make sure that trust is not violated, even inadvertently, by non-Slack products." I'm a huge Slack fan (hence why I built this) and built this to fix a need I had, but it's their brand and I don't blame them at all!
- blfr 4y ago
  Their emoji support is not that good, they lack the latest melting[1] and saluting[2] emojis. I particularly miss the saluting face at work. [1] https://emojipedia.org/melting-face/ https://emojipedia.org/melting-face/ [2] https://emojipedia.org/saluting-face/ https://emojipedia.org/saluting-face/
  - colejohnson66 4y ago
    Those were added last year in Unicode 14. Slack probably just hasn't updated to the new standard.
  - fmajid 4y ago
    When I first read this, I thought "melting face" was a reference to the famous climactic scene from the movie "Raiders of the Lost Ark", where the Nazi goon's face melts down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcR9k8o4I0w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcR9k8o4I0w
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devgoth 4y ago
what about this? https://slackmojis.com/ https://slackmojis.com/
- eddyg 4y ago
  I was worried that’s what this post was about! phew :)

54 points by rising-sky 4y ago

Salesforce sure is firing on all cylinders today... /s EDIT: I was confused about the timeline of this, this post is from 2018 (before Salesforce bought them. Salesforce still sucks but this isn't something they were responsible for)

gkoberger 4y ago
This was from before Salesforce bought them (2018).
- joshstrange 4y ago
  Edited, thank you for the clarification. With the Heroku stuff and the Salesforce/Slack PTO/vacation stuff from a few months ago I just assumed this was something new.

donkarma 4y ago

if discord launched a business version slack would be gone in a weeks time. not sure why people can't use IRC anyways unless they have ADHD when their screen isnt full of random colours and pictures and cant work without it

tony_cannistra 4y ago
gosh, simply cannot agree w/ this take. perhaps I'm a discord luddite, but there's just no way the Average Business User will ever figure out discord. I mean, thread replies in the main conversation by default? Come on.
- joshstrange 4y ago
  > I mean, thread replies in the main conversation by default? Come on. Personally I'm a huge fan of this and I hate Slack's threads, it's where discussion goes to die. If you need to break off then just create a group for the people who need to have input and take it out of the main channels. I use Discord replies almost daily while I avoid Slack's threads like the plague.
  - oneplane 4y ago
    For us and our clients it's the other way around. Slack's threads work, everyone else's threads suck (Teams and Discord included, but Teams is even worse than Discord).
  - tony_cannistra 4y ago
    Isn't the whole point of threads to "create a group for the people who need to have input?"
mattl 4y ago
are you talking about a private IRC server or using a public one?
strictnein 4y ago
Discord has a significant malware problem. Threat actors use their CDNs for malware storage and Discord has been very lax in addressing this. A lot of companies don't allow it to be installed and block Discord and its CDNs because of it.
- spicybright 4y ago
  This is my first time hearing anything like this. Do you have any articles or citations that show this?
  - strictnein 4y ago
    Some examples: https://threatpost.com/discord-malware-researchers/168096/ https://threatpost.com/discord-malware-researchers/168096/ https://news.sophos.com/en-us/2021/07/22/malware-increasingly-targets-discord-for-abuse/ https://news.sophos.com/en-us/2021/07/22/malware-increasingl... https://thenewstack.io/roblox-and-discord-become-virus-vectors-for-new-pypi-malware/ https://thenewstack.io/roblox-and-discord-become-virus-vecto...
avisser 4y ago
I bet Compliance is the #1 thing preventing a corp from adopting IRC.
nerdjon 4y ago
I really don't think discord has any advantage over slack. I still can't log into multiple discords in the same client (for when I want completely separate use cases). Also the spread of Teams has proved that the product can be... bad... and still used by everyone because its free or bundled with something they pay for.

zorlack 4y ago

Sunsets are gradual...

oneplane 4y ago
This is from 2018

spicybright 4y ago

Why do this? Slackmoji just improves the platform for free. If it's branding just change the name.

deleted 4y ago
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jamespullar 4y ago

Looks like you can still use https://discordmojis.com/ https://discordmojis.com/ (at least for now) which was always mostly a mirror of Slackmoji.

filmgirlcw 4y ago
Slackmojis.com still works. This was Slackmoji.com, which is different. It was an app that made it easier to upload custom emoji to Slack, rather than using their interface.

CodesInChaos 4y ago

Are there any details? Was the C&D sent by slack, if yes why? Trademark violation? Or perhaps by the copyright holder of some emoji that were used without permission?

gkoberger 4y ago
Here's a snippet from the email, which quotes their Brand Guidelines: "You're entitled to say that your website or application is integrated with Slack (we like people integrating with Slack!), but please don't use the Slack marks as part of the name of your company, application, product, or service, or in any logo you create."

djbusby 4y ago

Plug for Mattermost. Easy, self-hosted and no disruption from groups fighting over profit/property. Threads are pretty OK, for those that use them (I don't)

gkoberger 4y ago

Oh hi! I'm the creator of this. Slack doesn't deserve any hate here... also, it happened in 2018! I created this manyyyy years ago, since finding/uploading new emojis was so clunky. It's so weird to see it here now. This whole thing happened in 2018, so this isn't new. They just wanted me to change the name (fair enough!). I always meant to redo it with their new emoji API (so it didn't need a Chrome extension) and rename it; I just never got around to it. Plus, their emoji support got better (they used to reject large emojis rather than resize, didn't have newer emojis, they didn't have an API for adding emojis, etc), so a lot of the features became much less important :) The email from their lawyer had a bunch of scary legalese, but here's the friendly part from him: "Please understand that we are not interested in squelching creativity or stopping people from encouraging the use of our platform. However, our name and our brand are very important symbols of trust for our customers and we need to make sure that trust is not violated, even inadvertently, by non-Slack products." I'm a huge Slack fan (hence why I built this) and built this to fix a need I had, but it's their brand and I don't blame them at all!

blfr 4y ago
Their emoji support is not that good, they lack the latest melting[1] and saluting[2] emojis. I particularly miss the saluting face at work. [1] https://emojipedia.org/melting-face/ https://emojipedia.org/melting-face/ [2] https://emojipedia.org/saluting-face/ https://emojipedia.org/saluting-face/
- colejohnson66 4y ago
  Those were added last year in Unicode 14. Slack probably just hasn't updated to the new standard.
- fmajid 4y ago
  When I first read this, I thought "melting face" was a reference to the famous climactic scene from the movie "Raiders of the Lost Ark", where the Nazi goon's face melts down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcR9k8o4I0w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcR9k8o4I0w
4y ago

deleted 4y ago

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devgoth 4y ago

what about this? https://slackmojis.com/ https://slackmojis.com/

eddyg 4y ago
I was worried that’s what this post was about! phew :)