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Probably free plans have tons of overhead. If this results in drastically lower prices, I'm all for it.
by copperx 4y ago
Probably free plans have tons of overhead. If this results in drastically lower prices, I'm all for it.
- distrill 4y agoit won't
- toyg 4y agoIt won't. It's a typical move from a business stuck in a death spiral, desperately searching for profits by blindly slashing expenses.
- MuffinFlavored 4y agoIs Heroku stuck in a death spiral? Source needed?
- the_sleaze9 4y agoAll it would take is a quick google... Heroku stock price is down roughly %50 from less than a year ago. Death spiral? I don't know. But slashing costs is certainly not indicative of Heroku having a super awesome fun time.
- lddemi 4y agoall tech cos are down 50% from a year ago
- yebyen 4y agoBut Heroku also had a major GitHub integration that devolved into CVE which could not be fixed for about a month (among other bad news parts of that story, such as lying about the scope and slow walking the disclosures, that all seemed to just get worse.) This is ostensibly all the result of the brain drain after SalesForce acquisition has set in. It's a death spiral.
- typeofhuman 4y agoBox isnt. Up almost 21%. Just saying.
- beckingz 4y agoYou mean salesforce's stock price?
- mixmastamyk 4y agoThere's a search box at the bottom of each page here. Quite a few recent stories of decline, though death an exaggeration.
- dwaite 4y agoI don't know if I would classify it as an unrecoverable death spiral, but it does seem very short-sighted and ignorant of their customer base. Heroku has two core tenets - developer experience and upgrade to paid tier for production workloads. As a result, at least the Heroku customers I know use the free tier for a good portion of their _non_ customer-facing production workloads - prototypes, staging, administrative functions, and so on. This both increases their cost and makes budget planning a lot less stable. It means developers may become motivated to start coming up with workflows that target other environments where they would normally target Heroku, which like robs Heroku of a source for future revenue. Once you take on the devops work yourself, Heroku is no longer price competitive. In other words, this new cost makes the unique value of Heroku look quite a bit more like a detriment. Thats rather unfortunate.
- xenadu02 4y agoNo, this is about optimizing profitability. They were bought by Salesforce and that whole cohort (Salesforce, Oracle, et al) are machines optimized to extract as much money as possible from the Fortune 1000. Salesforce doesn't need a free tier to generate product leads. They have an army of sales people to push the product to customers that will write them big fat checks, then hand down edicts from the CTO's office requiring their internal devs use the technology.
- toyg 4y agoYes, but that's all stagnant tech - dead in all but name.
- rrix2 4y agoyup, and their enterprise clients don't care, maybe they even prefer that. in the mean time, it gets salesforce enough capital to leverage to acquire the next generation of leaders to stagnate and extract. the wheel spins on...
- tech_tuna 4y agoHeroku is a dying platform. It's a good time to get started on a migration plan. I have friends who argue that Salesforce has neglected Heroku for a while so this shouldn't be much of a surprise to anyone now. I haven't used Heroku too much myself.
- stjohnswarts 4y agoNah this is a bean counter decision, not an engineering or marketing decision. It will be bad mojo. There are a dozen other ways to cut down on the bogus/abusive accounts.