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Well, I'm not the only one thinking this way. Your attractivity will go below zero if you mention that you like some anime movie. Any sucess will never be becau

Well, I'm not the only one thinking this way. Your attractivity will go below zero if you mention that you like some anime movie. Any sucess will never be because of it but despite of it.

adrianN 4y ago
I like to rewatch the Ghibli movies with my wife from time to time.
- Silverback_VII 4y ago
  Ask her what she thinks when she sees the reflection of an anime on your eyes and demand an honest answer.
  - mcphage 4y ago
    ...are you for real?!
    - bdowling 4y ago
      He’s trolling and/or role-playing an extremely sexually insecure character.
      - mcphage 4y ago
        People have really weird hobbies.
fleetwoodsnack 4y ago
Cite your sources.
- probably_wrong 4y ago
  I disagree with the parent comment for other reasons, but I would grant him that saying "I like anime" is seen (injustly, IMHO) as a turn-off. I quickly looked in Google Scholar and found this paper titled "Pale and Geeky: Prevailing Stereotypes of Anime Fans", and I quote: > The social distance items suggest that anime fans are indeed stigmatized. For example, non-fans indicated a willingness to interact with anime fans at a distance (e.g., neighbor, coworker), but did not wish for an anime fan to hold political power (e.g., governor) or be allowed into one’s personal life (e.g., relationship partner, roommate). [1] https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Stephen-Reysen/publication/301198112_Pale_and_geeky_Prevailing_stereotypes_of_anime_fans/links/570b8f1308ae2eb94223962b/Pale-and-geeky-Prevailing-stereotypes-of-anime-fans.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Stephen-Reysen/publicat...
  - N3cr0ph4g1st 4y ago
    Anime has entered the mainstream for a while now, idk what you're talking about. You see the number of NBA stars saying they love anime? There's a video just a few days ago of wiggs talking about demon slayer, a ton of players love Naruto, etc. Don't act like a dweeb and anime isn't the turn off it once was.
  - fleetwoodsnack 4y ago
    Appreciated, but this is the first sentence in your citation: > We examined the content of anime fan stereotypes in a sample of non-fans (N = 146). Self-identified non-fans of anime wrote about a prototypical anime fan and rated the prototype’s personality their desired social distance from the prototype. I think we can both see where conclusions drawn here might fail. Replace any human characteristic and have non-fans of that characteristic respond, and you’re likely to get similar results.
  - Aeolun 4y ago
    I think that’s more the statement ‘I like anime’ without context? If you already see the person in front of you is not a pasty white nerd the statement doesn’t make as much of sn impression. In which case the problem is really being a pasty white nerd.
  - 4y ago
sunaurus 4y ago
You're right that you're not the only one - this way of thinking is common, it's known as "fragile masculinity". As you've found, if you worry too much about people with very fragile masculinity, you won't be able to enjoy things you want to enjoy. I think it makes sense to just not worry about these people.
serf 4y ago
"a man" isn't defined by their 'attractivity' -- an entirely subjective thing. as for what does make a man, go ask Socrates.
- Silverback_VII 4y ago
  - loriverkutya 4y ago
    > Watching anime signals to a woman that you that you lack some important qualities. I wonder how much this is true if you are Japanese. Also, one of the most manly man I've ever known was watching anime and have been pretty open about it with people and as far as I'm concerned nobody was thinking about him to be too much of a dreamer. I recommend stop visiting incel forums/reddits/PUA sites and figure out a way to build your confidence as a person.
    - Silverback_VII 4y ago
      I have a woman and a child so this is not valid reproach.
      - Jtsummers 4y ago
        Would she leave you for watching anime? That's a very fragile relationship already, if so.
    - greggman3 4y ago
      It's the same in Japan (15yrs in Japan) That is not to say you can't find people of both sexes into anime. But, when I've asked at parties, unless it's specifically a nerd party, 19 out of 20 times people say they don't watch. Back in the USA, at least at my age, it's frustrating being on the dating sites, in particular OkCupid, which has the questions "Would you date a comic book geek?". If I filter on that question it goes from thousands of people to just 3 in a 50 mile radius of SF. This dispite the fact that many famous people, especially famous movie and TV series directors are comic book geeks. Maybe the wording "geek" is enough to influence the result. Another interesting one is "Would you enjoy a night playing video games". Just 2 women. This dispite the fact that the gaming industry says 45% of gamers are women. Either that stat is BS or else all the gaming women are in relationships. Another one I find even more alarming and makes it feel like something fishy is going on "Do you like to wear a costume for Halloween?", just 3 women. But go to any Halloween party and it's fully mixed and seeing the Spirit costume shops all over the place someone is buying these costumes. Again one guess is that the people fun enough to wear a costume are not on the site.
mandmandam 4y ago
If a particular lady doesn't like you because you enjoy a Ghibli movie, there's a good chance you're not long term compatible. > Any sucess will never be because of it but despite of it. Success is what - pulling? ... Or finding a partner who likes you for who you are? Anyway, liking the things you like, regardless of others opinion, is an attractive trait (as long as you're not harming people). Similarly, being deceptive is very unattractive; and more importantly, deeply bad for you.
- Silverback_VII 4y ago
  >Similarly, being deceptive is very unattractive; and more importantly, deeply bad for you. On the contrary. The ability to be deceptive, to wear more than one mask, is an evolutionary advantage in my opinion and highly attractive even if people will never admit it because it's socially unacceptable.
  - mandmandam 4y ago
    Pfft. A five year old can be deceptive. A dog can be deceptive. Deception is easy, and often the easy way out. Being honest is hard - but it's worth it. You only get one life. If you spend it lying to everyone, you'll end up not even learning who you are.
    - Silverback_VII 4y ago
      People with the built-in social surveillance software called "conscience" have a hard time to be deceptive without feeling bad about themselves. For most people it's way easier to be honest.
  - adrianN 4y ago
    Not being deceptive is also an evolutionary advantage because people can trust you and you earn a position of respect in your group. Evolutionary psychology is popsci trash, you can invent just-so stories for any number of claims using it.
Aeolun 4y ago
> Your attractivity will go below zero if you mention that you like some anime movie. Watch the movie together first, then mention you like it after. Your attractivity will go through the roof.
PurpleRamen 4y ago
Anime is a very broad genre, aiming at small kids, teenager to young adults; and since some decades more and more also older adults. Ghibli for example is more family-orientated than just children. So it highly depends on which anime you enjoy and for what reasons, and what you make of it. Comparable here are Harry Potter-, Marvel- or Star Wars-Movies. Nobody would say liking these makes you unattractive, but most people would also not say it makes you attractive (fans of those franchises/genre are the obvious exception). The actual thing is, you probably got it the wrong way. Not anime makes you unattractive, the lack of anything attractive makes you unattractive.
tootie 4y ago
I've watched all of these over and over with my wife.
lotyrin 4y ago
I would never be in a relationship with a man who couldn't find time to enjoy these films with me or couldn't find something to love in them. Neither would any of my current or past partners or close friends, I don't think. These aren't anime bullshit with misogynistic crap, complicated giant robot plot-mechanisms that nobody can bother to follow, pedophilic male gaze crap, untranslatable humor, or the other things that plague a lot of Japanese comics and animation, they're quite accessible pieces of relatively pure art. The worst thing they have going for them is a mild obsession with themes of aviation, and some somewhat preachy subtextual political views (nature and harmony and people good, industry and violence and authority bad, mkay). If you can't bring yourself to appreciate the art in them even a little, I would frankly question your emotional intelligence.

Well, I'm not the only one thinking this way. Your attractivity will go below zero if you mention that you like some anime movie. Any sucess will never be because of it but despite of it.

adrianN 4y ago

I like to rewatch the Ghibli movies with my wife from time to time.

Silverback_VII 4y ago
Ask her what she thinks when she sees the reflection of an anime on your eyes and demand an honest answer.
- mcphage 4y ago
  ...are you for real?!
  - bdowling 4y ago
    He’s trolling and/or role-playing an extremely sexually insecure character.
    - mcphage 4y ago
      People have really weird hobbies.

fleetwoodsnack 4y ago

Cite your sources.

probably_wrong 4y ago
I disagree with the parent comment for other reasons, but I would grant him that saying "I like anime" is seen (injustly, IMHO) as a turn-off. I quickly looked in Google Scholar and found this paper titled "Pale and Geeky: Prevailing Stereotypes of Anime Fans", and I quote: > The social distance items suggest that anime fans are indeed stigmatized. For example, non-fans indicated a willingness to interact with anime fans at a distance (e.g., neighbor, coworker), but did not wish for an anime fan to hold political power (e.g., governor) or be allowed into one’s personal life (e.g., relationship partner, roommate). [1] https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Stephen-Reysen/publication/301198112_Pale_and_geeky_Prevailing_stereotypes_of_anime_fans/links/570b8f1308ae2eb94223962b/Pale-and-geeky-Prevailing-stereotypes-of-anime-fans.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Stephen-Reysen/publicat...
- N3cr0ph4g1st 4y ago
  Anime has entered the mainstream for a while now, idk what you're talking about. You see the number of NBA stars saying they love anime? There's a video just a few days ago of wiggs talking about demon slayer, a ton of players love Naruto, etc. Don't act like a dweeb and anime isn't the turn off it once was.
- fleetwoodsnack 4y ago
  Appreciated, but this is the first sentence in your citation: > We examined the content of anime fan stereotypes in a sample of non-fans (N = 146). Self-identified non-fans of anime wrote about a prototypical anime fan and rated the prototype’s personality their desired social distance from the prototype. I think we can both see where conclusions drawn here might fail. Replace any human characteristic and have non-fans of that characteristic respond, and you’re likely to get similar results.
- Aeolun 4y ago
  I think that’s more the statement ‘I like anime’ without context? If you already see the person in front of you is not a pasty white nerd the statement doesn’t make as much of sn impression. In which case the problem is really being a pasty white nerd.
- 4y ago

sunaurus 4y ago

You're right that you're not the only one - this way of thinking is common, it's known as "fragile masculinity". As you've found, if you worry too much about people with very fragile masculinity, you won't be able to enjoy things you want to enjoy. I think it makes sense to just not worry about these people.

serf 4y ago

"a man" isn't defined by their 'attractivity' -- an entirely subjective thing. as for what does make a man, go ask Socrates.

Silverback_VII 4y ago
- loriverkutya 4y ago
  > Watching anime signals to a woman that you that you lack some important qualities. I wonder how much this is true if you are Japanese. Also, one of the most manly man I've ever known was watching anime and have been pretty open about it with people and as far as I'm concerned nobody was thinking about him to be too much of a dreamer. I recommend stop visiting incel forums/reddits/PUA sites and figure out a way to build your confidence as a person.
  - Silverback_VII 4y ago
    I have a woman and a child so this is not valid reproach.
    - Jtsummers 4y ago
      Would she leave you for watching anime? That's a very fragile relationship already, if so.
  - greggman3 4y ago
    It's the same in Japan (15yrs in Japan) That is not to say you can't find people of both sexes into anime. But, when I've asked at parties, unless it's specifically a nerd party, 19 out of 20 times people say they don't watch. Back in the USA, at least at my age, it's frustrating being on the dating sites, in particular OkCupid, which has the questions "Would you date a comic book geek?". If I filter on that question it goes from thousands of people to just 3 in a 50 mile radius of SF. This dispite the fact that many famous people, especially famous movie and TV series directors are comic book geeks. Maybe the wording "geek" is enough to influence the result. Another interesting one is "Would you enjoy a night playing video games". Just 2 women. This dispite the fact that the gaming industry says 45% of gamers are women. Either that stat is BS or else all the gaming women are in relationships. Another one I find even more alarming and makes it feel like something fishy is going on "Do you like to wear a costume for Halloween?", just 3 women. But go to any Halloween party and it's fully mixed and seeing the Spirit costume shops all over the place someone is buying these costumes. Again one guess is that the people fun enough to wear a costume are not on the site.

mandmandam 4y ago

If a particular lady doesn't like you because you enjoy a Ghibli movie, there's a good chance you're not long term compatible. > Any sucess will never be because of it but despite of it. Success is what - pulling? ... Or finding a partner who likes you for who you are? Anyway, liking the things you like, regardless of others opinion, is an attractive trait (as long as you're not harming people). Similarly, being deceptive is very unattractive; and more importantly, deeply bad for you.

Silverback_VII 4y ago
>Similarly, being deceptive is very unattractive; and more importantly, deeply bad for you. On the contrary. The ability to be deceptive, to wear more than one mask, is an evolutionary advantage in my opinion and highly attractive even if people will never admit it because it's socially unacceptable.
- mandmandam 4y ago
  Pfft. A five year old can be deceptive. A dog can be deceptive. Deception is easy, and often the easy way out. Being honest is hard - but it's worth it. You only get one life. If you spend it lying to everyone, you'll end up not even learning who you are.
  - Silverback_VII 4y ago
    People with the built-in social surveillance software called "conscience" have a hard time to be deceptive without feeling bad about themselves. For most people it's way easier to be honest.
- adrianN 4y ago
  Not being deceptive is also an evolutionary advantage because people can trust you and you earn a position of respect in your group. Evolutionary psychology is popsci trash, you can invent just-so stories for any number of claims using it.

Aeolun 4y ago

> Your attractivity will go below zero if you mention that you like some anime movie. Watch the movie together first, then mention you like it after. Your attractivity will go through the roof.

PurpleRamen 4y ago

Anime is a very broad genre, aiming at small kids, teenager to young adults; and since some decades more and more also older adults. Ghibli for example is more family-orientated than just children. So it highly depends on which anime you enjoy and for what reasons, and what you make of it. Comparable here are Harry Potter-, Marvel- or Star Wars-Movies. Nobody would say liking these makes you unattractive, but most people would also not say it makes you attractive (fans of those franchises/genre are the obvious exception). The actual thing is, you probably got it the wrong way. Not anime makes you unattractive, the lack of anything attractive makes you unattractive.

tootie 4y ago

I've watched all of these over and over with my wife.

lotyrin 4y ago

I would never be in a relationship with a man who couldn't find time to enjoy these films with me or couldn't find something to love in them. Neither would any of my current or past partners or close friends, I don't think. These aren't anime bullshit with misogynistic crap, complicated giant robot plot-mechanisms that nobody can bother to follow, pedophilic male gaze crap, untranslatable humor, or the other things that plague a lot of Japanese comics and animation, they're quite accessible pieces of relatively pure art. The worst thing they have going for them is a mild obsession with themes of aviation, and some somewhat preachy subtextual political views (nature and harmony and people good, industry and violence and authority bad, mkay). If you can't bring yourself to appreciate the art in them even a little, I would frankly question your emotional intelligence.