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These movies are nice but when I watch them, I have the feeling that I am not truly a man because a man has no time to watch children movies ... Therefore to a
by Silverback_VII 4y ago
These movies are nice but when I watch them, I have the feeling that I am not truly a man because a man has no time to watch children movies ...
Therefore to avoid that my self-image takes a hit I do not watch them anymore.
- js2 4y agoTrapped in a prison of your own imagination.
- tokai 4y ago>I have the feeling that I am not truly a man because a man has no time to watch children movies Paradoxically that's a very childish thought.
- Silverback_VII 4y agoWell, I'm not the only one thinking this way. Your attractivity will go below zero if you mention that you like some anime movie. Any sucess will never be because of it but despite of it.
- adrianN 4y agoI like to rewatch the Ghibli movies with my wife from time to time.
- Silverback_VII 4y agoAsk her what she thinks when she sees the reflection of an anime on your eyes and demand an honest answer.
- fleetwoodsnack 4y agoCite your sources.
- probably_wrong 4y agoI disagree with the parent comment for other reasons, but I would grant him that saying "I like anime" is seen (injustly, IMHO) as a turn-off. I quickly looked in Google Scholar and found this paper titled "Pale and Geeky: Prevailing Stereotypes of Anime Fans", and I quote: > The social distance items suggest that anime fans are indeed stigmatized. For example, non-fans indicated a willingness to interact with anime fans at a distance (e.g., neighbor, coworker), but did not wish for an anime fan to hold political power (e.g., governor) or be allowed into one’s personal life (e.g., relationship partner, roommate). [1] https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Stephen-Reysen/publication/301198112_Pale_and_geeky_Prevailing_stereotypes_of_anime_fans/links/570b8f1308ae2eb94223962b/Pale-and-geeky-Prevailing-stereotypes-of-anime-fans.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Stephen-Reysen/publicat...
- N3cr0ph4g1st 4y agoAnime has entered the mainstream for a while now, idk what you're talking about. You see the number of NBA stars saying they love anime? There's a video just a few days ago of wiggs talking about demon slayer, a ton of players love Naruto, etc. Don't act like a dweeb and anime isn't the turn off it once was.
- fleetwoodsnack 4y agoAppreciated, but this is the first sentence in your citation: > We examined the content of anime fan stereotypes in a sample of non-fans (N = 146). Self-identified non-fans of anime wrote about a prototypical anime fan and rated the prototype’s personality their desired social distance from the prototype. I think we can both see where conclusions drawn here might fail. Replace any human characteristic and have non-fans of that characteristic respond, and you’re likely to get similar results.
- Aeolun 4y agoI think that’s more the statement ‘I like anime’ without context? If you already see the person in front of you is not a pasty white nerd the statement doesn’t make as much of sn impression. In which case the problem is really being a pasty white nerd.
- sunaurus 4y agoYou're right that you're not the only one - this way of thinking is common, it's known as "fragile masculinity". As you've found, if you worry too much about people with very fragile masculinity, you won't be able to enjoy things you want to enjoy. I think it makes sense to just not worry about these people.
- serf 4y ago"a man" isn't defined by their 'attractivity' -- an entirely subjective thing. as for what does make a man, go ask Socrates.
- Silverback_VII 4y ago
- loriverkutya 4y ago> Watching anime signals to a woman that you that you lack some important qualities. I wonder how much this is true if you are Japanese. Also, one of the most manly man I've ever known was watching anime and have been pretty open about it with people and as far as I'm concerned nobody was thinking about him to be too much of a dreamer. I recommend stop visiting incel forums/reddits/PUA sites and figure out a way to build your confidence as a person.
- Silverback_VII 4y agoI have a woman and a child so this is not valid reproach.
- Jtsummers 4y agoWould she leave you for watching anime? That's a very fragile relationship already, if so.
- greggman3 4y agoIt's the same in Japan (15yrs in Japan) That is not to say you can't find people of both sexes into anime. But, when I've asked at parties, unless it's specifically a nerd party, 19 out of 20 times people say they don't watch. Back in the USA, at least at my age, it's frustrating being on the dating sites, in particular OkCupid, which has the questions "Would you date a comic book geek?". If I filter on that question it goes from thousands of people to just 3 in a 50 mile radius of SF. This dispite the fact that many famous people, especially famous movie and TV series directors are comic book geeks. Maybe the wording "geek" is enough to influence the result. Another interesting one is "Would you enjoy a night playing video games". Just 2 women. This dispite the fact that the gaming industry says 45% of gamers are women. Either that stat is BS or else all the gaming women are in relationships. Another one I find even more alarming and makes it feel like something fishy is going on "Do you like to wear a costume for Halloween?", just 3 women. But go to any Halloween party and it's fully mixed and seeing the Spirit costume shops all over the place someone is buying these costumes. Again one guess is that the people fun enough to wear a costume are not on the site.
- mandmandam 4y agoIf a particular lady doesn't like you because you enjoy a Ghibli movie, there's a good chance you're not long term compatible. > Any sucess will never be because of it but despite of it. Success is what - pulling? ... Or finding a partner who likes you for who you are? Anyway, liking the things you like, regardless of others opinion, is an attractive trait (as long as you're not harming people). Similarly, being deceptive is very unattractive; and more importantly, deeply bad for you.
- Silverback_VII 4y ago>Similarly, being deceptive is very unattractive; and more importantly, deeply bad for you. On the contrary. The ability to be deceptive, to wear more than one mask, is an evolutionary advantage in my opinion and highly attractive even if people will never admit it because it's socially unacceptable.
- mandmandam 4y agoPfft. A five year old can be deceptive. A dog can be deceptive. Deception is easy, and often the easy way out. Being honest is hard - but it's worth it. You only get one life. If you spend it lying to everyone, you'll end up not even learning who you are.
- Silverback_VII 4y agoPeople with the built-in social surveillance software called "conscience" have a hard time to be deceptive without feeling bad about themselves. For most people it's way easier to be honest.
- adrianN 4y agoNot being deceptive is also an evolutionary advantage because people can trust you and you earn a position of respect in your group. Evolutionary psychology is popsci trash, you can invent just-so stories for any number of claims using it.
- Aeolun 4y ago> Your attractivity will go below zero if you mention that you like some anime movie. Watch the movie together first, then mention you like it after. Your attractivity will go through the roof.
- PurpleRamen 4y agoAnime is a very broad genre, aiming at small kids, teenager to young adults; and since some decades more and more also older adults. Ghibli for example is more family-orientated than just children. So it highly depends on which anime you enjoy and for what reasons, and what you make of it. Comparable here are Harry Potter-, Marvel- or Star Wars-Movies. Nobody would say liking these makes you unattractive, but most people would also not say it makes you attractive (fans of those franchises/genre are the obvious exception). The actual thing is, you probably got it the wrong way. Not anime makes you unattractive, the lack of anything attractive makes you unattractive.
- tootie 4y agoI've watched all of these over and over with my wife.
- lotyrin 4y agoI would never be in a relationship with a man who couldn't find time to enjoy these films with me or couldn't find something to love in them. Neither would any of my current or past partners or close friends, I don't think. These aren't anime bullshit with misogynistic crap, complicated giant robot plot-mechanisms that nobody can bother to follow, pedophilic male gaze crap, untranslatable humor, or the other things that plague a lot of Japanese comics and animation, they're quite accessible pieces of relatively pure art. The worst thing they have going for them is a mild obsession with themes of aviation, and some somewhat preachy subtextual political views (nature and harmony and people good, industry and violence and authority bad, mkay). If you can't bring yourself to appreciate the art in them even a little, I would frankly question your emotional intelligence.
- anjbe 4y ago“Critics who treat ‘adult’ as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” —C.S. Lewis
- Silverback_VII 4y agoSounds like rationalization of his own passion for content aimed at children. As a writer and intellectual he certainly could shot back with heavy bullets at those who questioned his own mental maturity. But the question remains.
- barrysteve 4y agoThe majority of popular films have content both children and adults can enjoy. Mass market appeal is where the money is. If the child-like moments of the show are sticking out to you, okay, maybe try to find the bigger picture in the story. Complaining that you have to conform to what some girls find attractive (or what other guys say girls find attractive), is no criticism of the film. If you want to otaku/weeb out on some niche anime, go find some uwu girl who likes that stuff. I don't understand this view that every woman has to like everything you're into and be attracted to it. You're going to get into some stuff that fluxuates your 'attractivity' metric and it's just part of your life. Pulling apart a motorcycle engine and spreading broken parts across the front lawn isn't so flash, but by golly, gee-willikers, it's going to happen if I want it to.
- echelon 4y agoWhen you die, you won't be a man any longer. In fact, much of your constituent matter wasn't and won't be human for the duration of the universe. So why care about being a man or any particular thing at all? Experience the universe in its rich fullness while you're still able. You're already dead in the limit [1]. Nobody's left to judge you. ([1] You can also use this perspective to shut down your experiences prematurely, but pro tip: don't. That's a minimization of potential.)
- siegecraft 4y agoThere's a type of man that has plenty of time to watch children's movies: a father. (Or you could just watch them because you enjoy them and not worry about what people think).
- Silverback_VII 4y ago>not worry about what people think it's not about what others think of me. It is about what I think of myself. Watching this kind of stuff sends the wrong signal to one's subconscious ... that one is still a "child"... and this will show up in one way or the other in one's interaction with other people.
- xsmasher 4y agoYou've taken on someone else's idea of what a man is and what a man does. You're the adult now, you get to decide what that means. https://xkcd.com/150/ https://xkcd.com/150/
- Silverback_VII 4y agoWell it maybe true to some degree and I'm all for being the best version of oneself. But many factors influence what a "man" is and one of them is the opposite sex. it's already not so attractive to watch TV and even less attractive to watch anime or other children stuff on it.
- xsmasher 4y agoThe "opposite sex" isn't a monolithic bloc. You could police your identity to make yourself attractive to someone that you need to hide yourself from for the rest of your life, but it's a tremendous waste of energy. Find yourself an anime girlfriend.
- skyyler 4y agoWhat it really comes down to is that you're too weak to be yourself. This might hurt to hear, but you're a coward if you let gender roles stop you from enjoying something. I sincerely recommend reading some theory on gender. Gender Trouble by Judith Butler is a surprisingly approachable introduction to the subject, despite not being written as such.
- parentoftoddler 4y agoMaybe you should go to the gym and lift heavy weights, do BJJ, or excel at some other sport. I don’t care at all what others think about my anime habit.
- seemack 4y agoThe saddest thing about this dismal comment is that you likely judge others negatively based on shallow opinions like this. I sincerely hope you are not in any position of authority over anyone.
- TheRealNGenius 4y agoLol, these are nort children movies