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> undisclosed advertisement To be fair, it is disclosed on the FAQ page: Another kind of job ad is reserved for YC-funded startups. These appear on the fron

> undisclosed advertisement To be fair, it is disclosed on the FAQ page: Another kind of job ad is reserved for YC-funded startups. These appear on the front page, but are not stories: they have no vote arrows, points, or comments. They begin part-way down and fall steadily. Only one is on the front page at a time. The rest are listed at jobs. I don't know where else they would disclose it, the fact that you can't vote or comment on it clearly shows you it's different. It's way preferable to e.g. astroturfing, and is not a dark pattern a la Amazon tricking you into prime

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
> I don't know where else they would disclose it Inline, I assume; "[Ad] Foo hiring bar"
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fabianhjr 4y ago
It should be clearly stated as an ad though, google wouldn't get away with not marking the top 2 rows of the result page as advertisement because "they disclosed so on the FAQ"
- phendrenad2 4y ago
  IANAL, but isn't there a law about online ads similar to what you mention? But then again job postings probably aren't typically considered ads...
  - version_five 4y ago
    Not a lawyer either, but the "ads" (and I think they are ads in the dictionary sense, plus HN refers to them as such in the FAQ) are literally on the website of the company they are advertising for. It's hard to imagine that is not allowed.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  But it isn't an ad. You are not required or incentivized to buy anything.
  - jjulius 4y ago
    It's a "job ad". Someone paid money to have it put in front of your face.
    - caslon 4y ago
      No, they didn't, actually. It's a perk for YC companies. They paid nothing.
      - jjulius 4y ago
        OK! They didn't pay for it, but it's still an ad, and I still think it should be marked as such.
      - solarkraft 4y ago
        It is a part of an agreement including a financial transaction.
        jacquesm 4y ago
        In the other direction than what one would normally expect with an ad.
    - jacquesm 4y ago
      They didn't. And neither do you if you post in 'who is hiring' on the 1st of the month.
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  - ly 4y ago
    The FAQ literally calls it a “job ad”. Ads don’t necessarily need to drive sales for them to be ads.
jjulius 4y ago
Currently on the front page is: >Smarking (YC W15) Is Hiring a Product Lead to digitize the parking industry (lever.co) You could disclose it as such >AD: Smarking (YC W15) Is Hiring a Product Lead to digitize the parking industry (lever.co)

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago

> I don't know where else they would disclose it Inline, I assume; "[Ad] Foo hiring bar"

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fabianhjr 4y ago

It should be clearly stated as an ad though, google wouldn't get away with not marking the top 2 rows of the result page as advertisement because "they disclosed so on the FAQ"

phendrenad2 4y ago
IANAL, but isn't there a law about online ads similar to what you mention? But then again job postings probably aren't typically considered ads...
- version_five 4y ago
  Not a lawyer either, but the "ads" (and I think they are ads in the dictionary sense, plus HN refers to them as such in the FAQ) are literally on the website of the company they are advertising for. It's hard to imagine that is not allowed.
jacquesm 4y ago
But it isn't an ad. You are not required or incentivized to buy anything.
- jjulius 4y ago
  It's a "job ad". Someone paid money to have it put in front of your face.
  - caslon 4y ago
    No, they didn't, actually. It's a perk for YC companies. They paid nothing.
    - jjulius 4y ago
      OK! They didn't pay for it, but it's still an ad, and I still think it should be marked as such.
    - solarkraft 4y ago
      It is a part of an agreement including a financial transaction.
      - jacquesm 4y ago
        In the other direction than what one would normally expect with an ad.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    They didn't. And neither do you if you post in 'who is hiring' on the 1st of the month.
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- ly 4y ago
  The FAQ literally calls it a “job ad”. Ads don’t necessarily need to drive sales for them to be ads.

jjulius 4y ago

Currently on the front page is: >Smarking (YC W15) Is Hiring a Product Lead to digitize the parking industry (lever.co) You could disclose it as such >AD: Smarking (YC W15) Is Hiring a Product Lead to digitize the parking industry (lever.co)