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This is definitely an inspiring story but isn't it an isolated data point? On average, the US has a lot of things going for it for a young software professiona

This is definitely an inspiring story but isn't it an isolated data point? On average, the US has a lot of things going for it for a young software professional if he or she can navigate the immigration maze and is reasonably lucky. Might not be for everyone but for the average person, getting a cushy job in a large company might be better for stability and long term satisfaction that risking it on an attempt to create a unicorn (which is rarely successful).

abc_lisper 4y ago
That's the thing with all the interesting stories though. I'm in no way criticizing you, just thought about this for a while. If we let ourselves guided by interesting(and thus rare) stories, we are obviously setting ourselves for failure, because that's not playing the game that needs to be played.
throw0821374 4y ago
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- abc_lisper 4y ago
  They also make choices and compromises people in US don't. Every interaction in India is loaded with suspicion. Dishonesty is the baseline. Disrespect is the norm. Xenophobia is common. Insecurity is the guiding North Star. Entitlement is prevalent. Hard work is looked down. Rules are for fools and loyalty (however earned/enforced) is everything. I love my country, but those are the facts.
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anukin 4y ago
Its an extremely isolated data point. He was born rich. Had the money and privilege to do coaching to go to an elite Indian engineering college. Went to US from there. When he came back his buddies from college where VCs. They funded him. His startup collapsed terribly even after so much of luck, privilege and funding. So now he gives outdated gyaan(wisdom) in Twitter.
- redox99 4y ago
  Doesn't that make his point stronger? If you are well connected, rich, and went to an elite college, it would make even more sense for the US to give you the visa.
  - quickthrower2 4y ago
    If you are that rich maybe go there on an investment type of visa. Buy a farm, then do tech.
- jitix 4y ago
  This is true everywhere tbh. Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos all came from families that were upper-middle class or rich. It's not a bad thing imo since families should strive to improve their situation with every generation, but it's important to highlight that rags-to-riches stories are extremely rare. There are probably many who also got their visa rejected and were stuck with huge loans for their studies and an Indian salary, or had to move to EU/CANZUK countries as a second option.
  - preommr 4y ago
    > upper-middle class or rich. Upper middle class covers a lot of commonplace jobs like dentists, accountants, engineers, etc. Also you're leaving out lots of people that do come from even more humble origins like Steve Jobs, Oprah, Jay Z, Soros, etc.
  - noufalibrahim 4y ago
    True about the people you mentioned but there were several others in that same group (upper middle class) who wasted their opportunities and didn't get anywhere. These people you mentioned are an exception and there are lessons to take away from that.

abc_lisper 4y ago

That's the thing with all the interesting stories though. I'm in no way criticizing you, just thought about this for a while. If we let ourselves guided by interesting(and thus rare) stories, we are obviously setting ourselves for failure, because that's not playing the game that needs to be played.

throw0821374 4y ago

abc_lisper 4y ago
They also make choices and compromises people in US don't. Every interaction in India is loaded with suspicion. Dishonesty is the baseline. Disrespect is the norm. Xenophobia is common. Insecurity is the guiding North Star. Entitlement is prevalent. Hard work is looked down. Rules are for fools and loyalty (however earned/enforced) is everything. I love my country, but those are the facts.
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anukin 4y ago

Its an extremely isolated data point. He was born rich. Had the money and privilege to do coaching to go to an elite Indian engineering college. Went to US from there. When he came back his buddies from college where VCs. They funded him. His startup collapsed terribly even after so much of luck, privilege and funding. So now he gives outdated gyaan(wisdom) in Twitter.

redox99 4y ago
Doesn't that make his point stronger? If you are well connected, rich, and went to an elite college, it would make even more sense for the US to give you the visa.
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  If you are that rich maybe go there on an investment type of visa. Buy a farm, then do tech.
jitix 4y ago
This is true everywhere tbh. Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos all came from families that were upper-middle class or rich. It's not a bad thing imo since families should strive to improve their situation with every generation, but it's important to highlight that rags-to-riches stories are extremely rare. There are probably many who also got their visa rejected and were stuck with huge loans for their studies and an Indian salary, or had to move to EU/CANZUK countries as a second option.
- preommr 4y ago
  > upper-middle class or rich. Upper middle class covers a lot of commonplace jobs like dentists, accountants, engineers, etc. Also you're leaving out lots of people that do come from even more humble origins like Steve Jobs, Oprah, Jay Z, Soros, etc.
- noufalibrahim 4y ago
  True about the people you mentioned but there were several others in that same group (upper middle class) who wasted their opportunities and didn't get anywhere. These people you mentioned are an exception and there are lessons to take away from that.