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Am I the only one who opened the tool and thought: "this, this is perfect, add nothing!"? Why isn't there a phone yet with no ports or power plugs of any kind

Am I the only one who opened the tool and thought: "this, this is perfect, add nothing!"? Why isn't there a phone yet with no ports or power plugs of any kind (wireless charging and software power/reset), flush rear camera, hidden front camera? It feels like that's the inevitable end of the current evolutionary tree, and all the technology is there and reasonably economical.

WithinReason 4y ago
Meizu Zero
- adolph 4y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod_Shuffle#3rd_generation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod_Shuffle#3rd_generation (which somehow had a 3.5mm audio jack...)
zw123456 4y ago
I posted that farther down in the thread. Yes, I thought the same thing. Sorry for the repetition, but this is a little dream of mine. I have an experimental cloud phone that has no CPU and uses an FPGA to directly transfer data from a VM in the cloud to the screen. It works, even on 4G but better on 5G. Also, I have been experimenting with transparent OLED. My dream would be a device completely cloud based, and hence, unlimited processing and storage. The back of the transparent display would be optical sensors and it would use computational imaging in the cloud, no lenses needed. The audio who knows, MEMS I suppose. it would look like just a simple pane of glass
- donkarma 4y ago
  that sounds absolutely horrid, imagine scrolling and then your display jumps to 200ms or your cloud provider drops you and your phone is bricked
  - zw123456 4y ago
    Ah no, not with edge compute, think MEC. Nope, I have a test VM on wavelength, under 4ms over 5G :)
    - zyx321 4y ago
      It works as long as you are the only user. It makes my head spin to imagine the amount of bandwidth required by a few hundred people, barreling down the countryside at 180km/h. Not just on the down link, but roaming potentially terabytes per user from edge node to edge node simultaneously.
- lostgame 4y ago
  Absolute nightmare fuel. I would pay a lot to never have a device like this. I want more control over my hardware and software, not less. I want less connection to or dependence on any sort of ‘cloud’. Give me liberty or give me a dumbphone.
  - zw123456 4y ago
    Hmm, ok, fair enough. good feedback. TY
SllX 4y ago
If we’re lucky, literally never on some of that without the technology being vastly superior to what we have today. What’s possible and what’s good aren’t always the same thing.
dmitrygr 4y ago
> software power/reset And if your software hangs? Hard buttons are a nice safety. Even one can be wired to some simple microcontroller that'll power cycle the entire device is held for 30 sec or some such thing. Doing it via a much more complex interface (touch, etc) isn't as foolproof

WithinReason 4y ago

Meizu Zero

adolph 4y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod_Shuffle#3rd_generation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod_Shuffle#3rd_generation (which somehow had a 3.5mm audio jack...)

zw123456 4y ago

I posted that farther down in the thread. Yes, I thought the same thing. Sorry for the repetition, but this is a little dream of mine. I have an experimental cloud phone that has no CPU and uses an FPGA to directly transfer data from a VM in the cloud to the screen. It works, even on 4G but better on 5G. Also, I have been experimenting with transparent OLED. My dream would be a device completely cloud based, and hence, unlimited processing and storage. The back of the transparent display would be optical sensors and it would use computational imaging in the cloud, no lenses needed. The audio who knows, MEMS I suppose. it would look like just a simple pane of glass

donkarma 4y ago
that sounds absolutely horrid, imagine scrolling and then your display jumps to 200ms or your cloud provider drops you and your phone is bricked
- zw123456 4y ago
  Ah no, not with edge compute, think MEC. Nope, I have a test VM on wavelength, under 4ms over 5G :)
  - zyx321 4y ago
    It works as long as you are the only user. It makes my head spin to imagine the amount of bandwidth required by a few hundred people, barreling down the countryside at 180km/h. Not just on the down link, but roaming potentially terabytes per user from edge node to edge node simultaneously.
lostgame 4y ago
Absolute nightmare fuel. I would pay a lot to never have a device like this. I want more control over my hardware and software, not less. I want less connection to or dependence on any sort of ‘cloud’. Give me liberty or give me a dumbphone.
- zw123456 4y ago
  Hmm, ok, fair enough. good feedback. TY

SllX 4y ago

If we’re lucky, literally never on some of that without the technology being vastly superior to what we have today. What’s possible and what’s good aren’t always the same thing.

dmitrygr 4y ago

> software power/reset And if your software hangs? Hard buttons are a nice safety. Even one can be wired to some simple microcontroller that'll power cycle the entire device is held for 30 sec or some such thing. Doing it via a much more complex interface (touch, etc) isn't as foolproof