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You can read an excerpt here: https://philarchive.org/archive/LANWMW-2 https://philarchive.org/archive/LANWMW-2 As I can tell, they don't deny that a full atom
by elil17 4y ago
You can read an excerpt here: https://philarchive.org/archive/LANWMW-2 https://philarchive.org/archive/LANWMW-2
As I can tell, they don't deny that a full atom-for-atom simulation of the human brain would work. They just argue that you can't simulate a human brain with abstract mathematical models (e.g. ANNs).
- dekhn 4y agoTo run an atom-for-atom simulation of the human brain would be unbelievably expensive and would not provide any real useful results.
- elil17 4y agoRight, that's what the authors are arguing I believe.
- dekhn 4y agoyes, but there are likely other ways to make machines with agency, self-awareness, and general intelligence.
- elil17 4y agoI agree, but I'd also be curious to hear why the authors think that is not the case (unclear to me, but I didn't read very far as it is not very accessible to me as a non-philosopher).
- dekhn 4y agoI stopped reading because the author had too many preconceived notions for me to take their argument seriously. Unlearn, they must.
- ta988 4y agoMost of the atoms would be useless in a simulation. Energy transfert and production, waste management, immune system, Neuro transmitter recycling, non cognition related protein and RNA expression...
- contextfree 4y agoon page xi: "A2. The only way to engineer such technology is to create a software emulation of the human neurocognitive system. (Alternative strategies designed to bring about an AGI without emulating human intelligence are considered and rejected in section 3.3.3 and chapter 12.)" This claim seems central to the book's thesis and, at least to me, very nonobvious/unintuitive so it's odd that its support is apparently relegated to one sub-sub-chapter near the beginning and one chapter near the end of the book. The introduction doesn't really even attempt to sketch a suggestion of an argument for this.