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It does require legal change but not the one you're implying. I love how the conversation moved from the initial outrage of "they're scanning my private images!

It does require legal change but not the one you're implying. I love how the conversation moved from the initial outrage of "they're scanning my private images!" to "ok, they are scanning my images but I need to have a legal recourse to get my accounts back in case I'm banned improperly". There is no good excuse for this kind of spying apparatus, period. If anything, having a mandated formal process for reinstating banned accounts will make the scanning more acceptable, which it shouldn't be. "You see, yes, we're regularly checking out your dick pics but it's all good, we have a process in place and if we tag an image as CP, when it's not, you'll eventually be exonerated. No harm done"

bambax 4y ago
I would agree with you, except for this which goes too far IMHO: > If anything, having a mandated formal process for reinstating banned accounts will make the scanning more acceptable, which it shouldn't be. We should fight first for a proper legal recourse, and once this happens, then we can also fight for no scanning.
- tresqotheq 4y ago
  >We should fight first for a proper legal recourse It does not matter, because we don't have any fight left in us at all..
  - reitanqild 4y ago
    Speak for yourself. I'm more than prepared to just stop working for a few days or even a week or two. I already actively boycott Chinese products where possible (I buy non Chinese if at all possible, even at significant higher prices), support the Georgian Legion with my own cash and have probably spent hundreds of hours on unpaid online activism this half year on top of what I do for my church (although in all fairness it still does more for me). If enough people band together and just plain stop working, sooner or later politicians will have to listen.
- melff 4y ago
  Why? Why should be fight for legal recourse first before we tackle the real problem? (At least in this context, legal recourse for unwarranted service termination can also be useful for things unrelated to scanning of private data, but that's not the point) This sounds like the "step back" in the "two steps forward, one step backwards" ideom.
  - cloverich 4y ago
    I'd argue because it would likely be an easier battle and would still win rights and, perhaps, set precedent for the limitations of entities like Google here and elsewhere. The alternative of blocking scanning all together is extremely easy to railroad.

bambax 4y ago

I would agree with you, except for this which goes too far IMHO: > If anything, having a mandated formal process for reinstating banned accounts will make the scanning more acceptable, which it shouldn't be. We should fight first for a proper legal recourse, and once this happens, then we can also fight for no scanning.

tresqotheq 4y ago
>We should fight first for a proper legal recourse It does not matter, because we don't have any fight left in us at all..
- reitanqild 4y ago
  Speak for yourself. I'm more than prepared to just stop working for a few days or even a week or two. I already actively boycott Chinese products where possible (I buy non Chinese if at all possible, even at significant higher prices), support the Georgian Legion with my own cash and have probably spent hundreds of hours on unpaid online activism this half year on top of what I do for my church (although in all fairness it still does more for me). If enough people band together and just plain stop working, sooner or later politicians will have to listen.
melff 4y ago
Why? Why should be fight for legal recourse first before we tackle the real problem? (At least in this context, legal recourse for unwarranted service termination can also be useful for things unrelated to scanning of private data, but that's not the point) This sounds like the "step back" in the "two steps forward, one step backwards" ideom.
- cloverich 4y ago
  I'd argue because it would likely be an easier battle and would still win rights and, perhaps, set precedent for the limitations of entities like Google here and elsewhere. The alternative of blocking scanning all together is extremely easy to railroad.