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The great Miyazaki watch of 2022
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- nicoburns 4y agoThe Castle Of Cagliostro is a fantastic movie. Inspired by a recent Miyazaki thread, I recently watched two TV series directed by him: - Future Boy Conan - Lupin III (partly Miyizaki, partly Takahata, partly other directors) Lupin III was ok, but I wouldn't particularly recommend it (the TV series, as mentioned the film is excellent). But I would wholeheartedly recommend Future Boy Conan (also known as "Conan, The Boy in Future"). I thought this was every bit as good as his movies, with the bonus that it's almost 13 hours long in total.
- ur-whale 4y ago> Future Boy Conan Mirai Shōnen Konan ... I watched this with my kid when he was 7-ish ... man was that series great, my kid was addicted ... and yeah, it lasts for ever even though each episode is short.
- dariosalvi78 4y agowatched in Italy when I was a kid. "Conan il ragazzo del futuro". Its aesthetics and post-apocaliptic world fascinated me.
- The-Bus 4y agoSame here, in Latin America. The new Italian dub just came out. I will have to wait until December for the Spanish language release.
- Cyph0n 4y agoFuture Boy Conan - renamed “Adnan wa Lina” (Adnan and Lina) - was (and still is) one of the most popular cartoons in the Middle East and North Africa. It and UFO Robo Grendizer (and a bunch of other anime) were picked up by a Kuwaiti dubbing studio and blew up all over the region in the late 70s and 80s. If you ask anyone who grew up in the region from the 70s to 90s, they’ll very likely know these two shows.
- Cyph0n 4y agoCorrection: Grendizer was dubbed by a Lebanese studio. In general, Lebanon, Syria, and Kuwait are the big players in the anime dubbing space. Egypt is known for dubbing US cartoons.
- chrisweekly 4y agoGrendizer!! Oh man that takes me back. Star Blazers was the other show I couldn't get enough of at the time (circa 1982?) as a pre-adolescent.
- vanderZwan 4y agoThere's a reason that Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken!, the anime about making anime that made a New York Times "Best TV Shows of 2020" list[0], references Future Boy Conan as the original inspiration of one of the main character[1][2]. Also, Future Boy Conan apparently just got a new 4K release[3] [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/01/arts/television/best-tv-shows.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/01/arts/television/best-tv-s... [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwGakTUnxK8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwGakTUnxK8 [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PddceZ_V124 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PddceZ_V124 [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7_p48w45l8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7_p48w45l8
- belugacat 4y ago> Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken! One of the best animes I have ever seen. Celebrates the inherent deep joy in making, set in a low key solarpunk world. A breath of fresh air. No surprise Masaaki Yuasa was involved, his latest movie Inu-Oh gave me similar feelings of ecstasy by combining off the walls psychedelic animation with a 14th century historical Noh theater inspired rock opera. So good.
- sogen 4y agogreat news!
- raspyberr 4y agoWhat a wonderfully made website.
- zppln 4y agoPersonally I've always preferred Takahata's work over Miyazaki's (whose output is still world class...). Only Yesterday is severely underrated in my opinion.
- loloquwowndueo 4y agoDon’t confuse “relatively unknown” with “underrated”. It is very highly rated: “The film received widespread critical acclaim. On Rotten Tomatoes, the film has a rating of 100%”.
- xdavidliu 4y agoTale of Princess Kaguya was a masterpiece too.
- interestica 4y agoWeird. Just 5 mins ago i saw that Cineplex is playing Only Yesterday across Canada (Ontario for sure) next week. https://www.cineplex.com/movie/only-yesterday https://www.cineplex.com/movie/only-yesterday
- electriclove 4y agoYup, Ghiblifest is taking place again: https://www.ghiblifest.com/ https://www.ghiblifest.com/
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- Lucasoato 4y agoWe can all agree that Sprites Away and Howl's Moving Castle are timeless masterpieces that won't be surpassed by anything... But if you really are curious about some hidden gems, I can't suggest enough Mary and the Witch's Flower. The vibes, the settings, the girl's feelings... That work of art literally takes you to another world, among the clouds, to the Endor College to be exact :)
- DavidPiper 4y agoI'd also highly recommend From Up On Poppy Hill. I kind of understand why it doesn't get as much attention as other Ghibli films (gentler pace, not Hisaishi (though still great music), mildly questionable storyline for a US audience at the time)... But damn the dry sarcasm and subtle savagery in the English dub is delightful.
- robin_reala 4y agoMary and the Witch’s Flower isn’t Miyazaki / Studio Ghibli. It’s by Studio Ponoc, which is mostly ex-Ghibli people, so it retains a lot of the same style. Unfortunately, while the style is definitely there, I don’t think the film holds a candle to the storytelling that Ghibli does so well.
- gommm 4y agoit's certainly better in term of storytelling than some of the worst Ghibli's like Howl's moving castle, Tales from Earthsea (to be fair Hayao wasn't involved with the second). In general, I'd place it in the middle, not as good as the greatest movies but still quite good.
- ZeWaka 4y agoI'm curious - I already know I disagree with you, but why don't you like Howl's? I always hear it highly regarded online, and I'd be interested in knowing why you don't like it.
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- 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y agoMy introduction to Miyazaki was on a bus ride from Sasebo to Nagasaki. Watching Castle in the Sky while Japan passes by had a strong impact. I yearn to return to those innocent and youthful days. Maybe I was biased as a stranger in a strange land. Blind to Japan's less savory side, if it has one. Being stationed in Japan as a young Marine changed me immensely. Such a beautiful country of beautiful people. I'm rambling now.
- AndrewOMartin 4y agoRegarding Japan's less savory side, [Shogo on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/c/LetsaskShogoYourJapanesefriendinKyoto https://www.youtube.com/c/LetsaskShogoYourJapanesefriendinKy...) seems to be fairly measured and insightful in his videos on "Japanese traditional culture, tips on traveling to Kyoto, and social problems in Japan". Though they're only one viewpoint so take it with appropriate caveats. I'm absolutely no authority but I get the feeling that Japan is a great place to live if you fit into one of the traditional societal roles, but otherwise can be very alienating. Luckily for the gaijin amongst us, one of those roles is "polite tourist", so expect to be welcomed and treated very well. Just don't expect the same wonderful experiences to continue if you try to put down roots.
- Aeolun 4y ago> Just don't expect the same wonderful experiences to continue if you try to put down roots. Eh? It’s still a very nice country if you put down roots. It’s certainly one of the best countries in terms of social cohesion/structure. Japan doesn’t cease to amaze me even after 10 years. Today I was put on a sort of medical gyroscope and made to drink burp and glowjuice as part of a yearly medical checkup, after which the guy proceeded to yell instructions at me in half broken english, while he presumably took multiple x-rays of my stomach and throat. I didn’t even know this existed, but apparently all men 35 and older do it once a year as a matter of course. To balance that, Japanese people have a fairly different idea of what constitutes ‘normal’, and that is hard to get used to. For example, everyone considers me a deviant for just wanting to start my day with cereal and milk, and not wanting to eat a (warm!) multi-course meal for breakfast.
- vintermann 4y agoIt's that newsletter guy who likes Theodor Kittelsen again! A good time to mention: Kittelsen's fairy tale/ fantasy illustrations get all the attention, but he was also a visual satirist, a sort of proto comic artist, with a great deal of humour and self-irony (he once drew a self-portrait where he's passed out in a hammock, a half-finished painting on his easel, and a pig rooting through his paints box, for instance) He published a book of newspaper-style single picture comics called "Har dyrene sjæl" ("Do animals have souls?") with anthropomorphic frogs, snails and insects of various kinds. The frogs look a lot like Miyazaki's in "Spirited Away"! I wonder if it was a direct inspiration.
- classified 4y agoAm I the only one who thought this was about a wrist watch?
- necheffa 4y agoI would be surprised if you are not the only one.
- dEnigma 4y agoThen "Surprise!". I also thought it was about a wristwatch (from some other, unrelated Miyazaki)
- lmz 4y agoWell, you can get that too if you want: https://www.seikowatches.com/global-en/products/presage/special/ghibli2020limited https://www.seikowatches.com/global-en/products/presage/spec...
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- Findecanor 4y agoI had expected a miniature counterpart to the animated Ghibli Clock, stuck in-between two skyscrapers in Shiodome, Tokyo. <https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-giant-ghibli-clock https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-giant-ghibli-clock>
- Silverback_VII 4y agoThese movies are nice but when I watch them, I have the feeling that I am not truly a man because a man has no time to watch children movies ... Therefore to avoid that my self-image takes a hit I do not watch them anymore.
- js2 4y agoTrapped in a prison of your own imagination.
- tokai 4y ago>I have the feeling that I am not truly a man because a man has no time to watch children movies Paradoxically that's a very childish thought.
- Silverback_VII 4y agoWell, I'm not the only one thinking this way. Your attractivity will go below zero if you mention that you like some anime movie. Any sucess will never be because of it but despite of it.
- adrianN 4y agoI like to rewatch the Ghibli movies with my wife from time to time.
- Silverback_VII 4y agoAsk her what she thinks when she sees the reflection of an anime on your eyes and demand an honest answer.
- mcphage 4y ago...are you for real?!
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- troelsSteegin 4y agoVocab word of the day: "eucatastrophes": "a sudden turn of events in a story which ensures that the protagonist does not meet some terrible, impending, and very plausible and probable doom.", via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucatastrophe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucatastrophe I never would have connnected Miyazaki with Tolkien.
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- lupire 4y agoIt's Anastrophe, for the Haskell programmers. (But the literature nerds have already used that word for Yoda-grammar)
- rwbaskette 4y agoεὖ : well/good κατα- : back/against στρέφω : I turn/twist It looked funny pairing for bit of Greek I know until I read the link and realized it wasn’t really Greek.
- sh1mmer 4y agoYou weren’t far off > The writer J. R. R. Tolkien coined the word by affixing the Greek prefix eu, meaning good, to catastrophe From the New Oxford Dictionary > Catastrophe: mid 16th century (in the sense 'denouement'): from Latin catastropha, from Greek katastrophé 'overturning, sudden turn', from kata- 'down' + strophe 'turning' (from 'down strephein 'to turn').
- sdenton4 4y agoIt's Greek for deus ex machina!
- gsatic 4y agoFor me the stories are so so. As in I can't even remember most of them, but the art oh man...for some reason, it has left a permanent mark. Like if I am admiring the trees after the rains, flowers moving in the wind, water leaking out of a pipe...my brain goes straight to Miyazaki scenes...so much beauty captured in the simplest of things.
- slothtrop 4y agoA couple are quasi-picaresque, nearly plotless. I'm thinking of Kiki's Delivery Service. It feels cozy and injects little in the way of tension, compared to most animated family movies (that I've seen). Seems like an underrated approach but probably hard to pull off. In contrast, Princess Mononoke (admittedly, not for kids) has more going on and doesn't lack drama.
- ricardobeat 4y agoSome titles like Nausicaa have more of a traditional Hollywood script, with bad & good guys, some big tension and epic storylines. The rest, and on my opinion the best ones, are like the author described: the plot runs on kindness, friendship and discoveries, which may feel “static” when you’re used to frenetic disney movies but makes for much more inspiring movies.
- wodenokoto 4y agoThe genre is often referred to as “slice of life”. I really love the ones that doesn’t have a “story” but just places you in a world with interesting characters. Stories are overrated.
- TheRealNGenius 4y agoNo, stories in general are not overrated. Studio Ghibli’s films are.
- blowski 4y agoI’m downvoting this because it says nothing. Unpopular (or popular) opinions without explanation are boring.
- vanderZwan 4y agoEveryone who is into animation knows about the Akira bike-slide, but I have a hunch "Lupin leaping across the rooftops" from the first clip is referenced surprisingly often too. For example thirty seconds into this One-Punch Man animation by Murata: [0] https://twitter.com/NEBU_KURO/status/1440944255011225601 https://twitter.com/NEBU_KURO/status/1440944255011225601
- Pulcinella 4y agoYeah there are some similar shots in Evangelion and the second rebuild movie (specifically the fight with Sahaquiel, the one falling from space they have to catch). I don’t know if both your example and mine are pulling inspiration from the Lupin film intentionally or if all 3 are referencing hurdling. There definitely seems to be a Superman style, heroic sense of “leaping tall buildings in a single bound.” The Lupin clip and your example seem to play it for laughs, contrasting these extreme feats the characters are performing with why they are actually trying to perform them (e.g. in the OPM case, moving at incredible speeds and jumping great distances just to try to get a good deal on groceries) while Eva plays it more straight (emphasizing the power and speed of the Eva’s and their effects on the built and natural landscape).
- vanderZwan 4y ago> I don’t know if both your example and mine are pulling inspiration from the Lupin film intentionally or if all 3 are referencing hurdling Could also be! Either way it seems to be part of the Japanese animation "language but not the Western one so much
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- aliqot 4y agoeucatastrophe is the opposite of catastrophe
- croes 4y agoIsn't the Brexit a catastrophe?
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- JohnJamesRambo 4y agoI’m pretty ignorant on the whole matter but it doesn’t seem like a terrible spot to be in not being tied to the EU and lots of countries’ debt right now? With regard to other aspects of Brexit, reading this Washington Post article it seems to have had some good parts and some bad parts and it is too early to tell? https://archive.ph/2JVVl https://archive.ph/2JVVl
- bjelkeman-again 4y agoNo need to be ignorant. The impact is pretty significant. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/02/brexits-effects-on-uk-trade-are-dramatic-but-we-feel-them-in-the-eu-too https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/02/brexit... What are the good parts you refer to in Brexit? > Britain has “taken back control.” But the government has struggled to show the benefits. If there had been benefits, rest assured they had been trumpeted from the rooftops. > Since Britons voted in 2016 to leave the E.U., the country’s per capita income has grown by 3.8 percent in real terms, compared with 8.5 percent growth in the E.U > But the impact on the economy may take years to fully reveal itself. “I compare Brexit to a slow tire puncture versus a car crash,” Portes said. “It takes time.” > But Britons who voted for Brexit because they wanted less immigration would be disappointed. > Despite all these arrivals, the United Kingdom is facing a massive labor shortage blamed in part on Brexit. The country has struggled to bring in fruit pickers, hotel maids and truck drivers. The National Health Service in England is short tens of thousands of doctors, nurses and midwives, in what a parliamentary committee called the “greatest workforce crisis in their history.” > Johnson’s government now says this arrangement [Northern Ireland] is tearing the kingdom apart, creating disunion and strife. Brexit is far from done and the relationship with the EU is getting worse. The most likely new prime minister of the UK has been leading the charge to break the Northern Ireland protocol (which is linked to the peace agreement in Northern Ireland). > Johnson’s government is pushing a law through Parliament to unilaterally overturn the protocol — a move decried by critics as a breach of international law.
- cainxinth 4y ago> There’s a lot of this in Miyazaki’s movies: the drama and delight of work Unsurprising given Miyazaki's famously fierce work ethic: > "...he is an intense workaholic, and resents anything that takes him away from his work. His producer and friend Toshio Suzuki told me that in the early days of their studio, Studio Ghibli, Miyazaki would work from 9 a.m. to 4:30 a.m., and that in recent years he has mellowed somewhat and goes home at midnight.” Source: https://animeuknews.net/2005/01/hayao-miyazaki-intense-workaholic/ https://animeuknews.net/2005/01/hayao-miyazaki-intense-worka...
- cannam 4y agoMiyazaki is a fascinating person to read about, because of his combination of luminous creativity, clarity, and lightness with plain ordinary hard work, grumpiness, and pessimism. His two books of essay-ish fragments, Starting Point and Turning Point, are well worth looking out. The documentary film "The Kingdom of Dreams and Madness" is rather good too. (Here's a rather solipsistic piece I wrote about Starting Point and how it made me feel about my work as a programmer: https://thebreakfastpost.com/2021/01/05/hayao-miyazaki-and-work/ https://thebreakfastpost.com/2021/01/05/hayao-miyazaki-and-w...)
- 1MachineElf 4y agoWhile I am a big Miyazaki fan, there is another interesting Studio Ghibli anime that others here may enjoy: Pom Poko (1994) It is was the first non-Miyazaki Ghibli film I was ever exposed to. Not as popular as their other works but notable in it's own right.
- WastingMyTime89 4y agoAll the movies Takahata made for Ghibli are good. Omoide poroporo is my favourite for its theme - it's about a young woman turning thirty reflecting on what she actually wants from life and looking back at her childhood while vacationing in the countryside.
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- antonymy 4y agoThe two movies the author had never seen were two of my favorite films by Miyazaki that I watched in my formative years. Of course the acclaim always went to Nauiscaa, Spirited Away, and Princess Mononoke, but I've always adored Porco Rosso. The atmosphere of those tiny Adriatic islands and interwar Italian cities makes me nostalgic for a place I've never visited.
- mrexroad 4y agoI find Porco Rosso and Kiki’s Delivery Service nothing short of magical.
- mortenjorck 4y agoThe sense of time and place in both movies is tremendous. Kiki's city is the kind of bustling, walkable place urbanists dream of, in its own era of can-do optimism mirroring the protagonist herself. Porco's setting is a little more melancholic, its picturesque villages bearing the memories both of simpler times and of past war, with the reconstruction of Porco's plane serving as a microcosm of the world around it.
- joshspankit 4y agoI hope I live long enough to ask a VR device “Take me to Kiki’s city” and I get to step in to a world that absolutely resonates.
- joshspankit 4y agoI say “live long enough” because it probably means waiting until AI can generate the whole experience including the character AI
- mrexroad 4y agoIt’s the one movie I’ve always wanted to live within. IIRC there’s supposed to be a Kiki land in the new Ghibli theme park…
- lordleft 4y agoPrincess Mononoke is my favorite film of all time. Whisper of the Heart is a close second.
- adregan 4y agoAnyone with experience as to an appropriate age to introduce a child to Miyazaki? I imagine the dubbed versions are useful for this. I'm about to have my first child, and have recently (in the last 5 years or so) revisited some Disney classics from my youth, and I'm not really thrilled with them.
- nosianu 4y agoI recommend "Ponyo". Because it's good :) I think this is possibly the Miyazaki movie for the youngest target audience of all his movies, but I don't know his early movies, only all the later ones that many people know. IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0876563/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0876563/ IMDB parents guide: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0876563/parentalguide https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0876563/parentalguide Minimum age recommendations start at 0 (simply meaning no official limit, it's up to the parents) - depending on country - to around 5-7 years old for a minimum age for this movie. Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponyo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponyo
- wodenokoto 4y agoMy neighbor Totoro and ponyo are childrens movies for the younger ones.
- CharlesW 4y agoYes! My kids loved both of these. (And of course, they had to have stuffies: https://ghiblimerchandise.com/collections/my-neighbor-totoro-plush/ https://ghiblimerchandise.com/collections/my-neighbor-totoro...)
- TheRealNGenius 4y agoDefinitely do not show them Spirited Away as a young child. I was permanently scarred (emotionally) by the grotesqueness of no-face as a child (~5). It really depends on the movie, but the ones with more mature themes should be left until they are at least in their teens. As a blanket statement, I would not generally say Ghibli films are as suitable for really young children as Disney/Pixar films are.
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- aaroninsf 4y agoI read the Sloan piece yesterday, but still hoped that this post was about a timepiece I could wear on my wrist. Brb... internet tells me Seiko did four models in collaboration with SG last year. They're OK but I wouldn't call them great.
- zagrebian 4y agoThat person has the time to rewatch every Miyazaki film. Cool for them.
- flakiness 4y agoNit: Kiki’s Delivery Service is based on a novel [1], in which people are even nicer. It's at the level where you might have been embarrassed as a cynical adult. What Miyazaki added to the original was actions and excitement. The original was probably a bit too boring for his (and possible markets') taste. [1] https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4834001199 https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4834001199