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Pay for Premium - YouTube is one of the few services that actually lets you pay to stop the ads, it’s worth it. I wish that also fixed all the bad product desi

Pay for Premium - YouTube is one of the few services that actually lets you pay to stop the ads, it’s worth it. I wish that also fixed all the bad product design that results from building something corrupted by ad incentives. You can also disable all tracking in settings.

ilitirit 4y ago
I don't have a problem with ads in general - I have a problem with how they are currently presenting ads. It was never this bad in the past, and I honestly I'm not sure I want to pay money to a company who uses these predatory techniques. 40 minute ads? Who even does this? The only way someone would even consider watching this instead of the content they actually clicked on would be if someone let it autoplay. This is the kind of thing my 5 year old nephews would do. Absolutely disgusting predatory behaviour...
unsupp0rted 4y ago
I pay for YouTube premium and although it stops Youtube's ads, the in-video ads from content creators are much more distracting and annoying. My brain can easily block a banner ad or tune out until the "skip ad" button appears. But when a content creator spends 90 seconds on message and then jarringly shifts to trying to sell me a mattress or a water bottle (Linus Tech Tips) for the nth time, that makes the video lose all value for me. Content creators gotta eat, I get that. But the ad-supported model is garbage.
- gonehome 4y ago
  Yeah, I don’t like that either but that’s really on the creator. I prefer the patreon model or at least when they put ads at the end.
  - clusterhacks 4y ago
    Honest question, how many creators do you support via patreon or similar? I subscribe to some very niche content creators on YT and am a YT premium subscriber. One of the creators I follow has 200,000+ subscribers and is very open about the fact that without his patreon supporters that his channel would be unsustainable. This was surprising to me - I (naively?) thought more of my premium subscription would trickle down to my subscription channels and that 200,000 subscribers would be enough to make a channel at least somewhat self-supporting.
    - gonehome 4y ago
      I pay for 4 annual substacks, but I don't use patreon. I generally have a rule where I won't pay for something if it doesn't remove the ads. The podcasts I pay for have private links that have ad-free versions (except for Honestly which I'm on the fence about paying for because of it). YouTube premium removes ads, but patreon often doesn't. I think I'd seen some YouTuber with around that many subscribers say they make ~20k/yr? So it's not nothing, but definitely not enough to be full time. The bigger ones with millions of subscribers like MKBHD and such I think do really well (7 figures?), but I'd guess a lot of that is extra stuff like the sponsored deals and merch stores etc.

ilitirit 4y ago

I don't have a problem with ads in general - I have a problem with how they are currently presenting ads. It was never this bad in the past, and I honestly I'm not sure I want to pay money to a company who uses these predatory techniques. 40 minute ads? Who even does this? The only way someone would even consider watching this instead of the content they actually clicked on would be if someone let it autoplay. This is the kind of thing my 5 year old nephews would do. Absolutely disgusting predatory behaviour...

unsupp0rted 4y ago

I pay for YouTube premium and although it stops Youtube's ads, the in-video ads from content creators are much more distracting and annoying. My brain can easily block a banner ad or tune out until the "skip ad" button appears. But when a content creator spends 90 seconds on message and then jarringly shifts to trying to sell me a mattress or a water bottle (Linus Tech Tips) for the nth time, that makes the video lose all value for me. Content creators gotta eat, I get that. But the ad-supported model is garbage.

gonehome 4y ago
Yeah, I don’t like that either but that’s really on the creator. I prefer the patreon model or at least when they put ads at the end.
- clusterhacks 4y ago
  Honest question, how many creators do you support via patreon or similar? I subscribe to some very niche content creators on YT and am a YT premium subscriber. One of the creators I follow has 200,000+ subscribers and is very open about the fact that without his patreon supporters that his channel would be unsustainable. This was surprising to me - I (naively?) thought more of my premium subscription would trickle down to my subscription channels and that 200,000 subscribers would be enough to make a channel at least somewhat self-supporting.
  - gonehome 4y ago
    I pay for 4 annual substacks, but I don't use patreon. I generally have a rule where I won't pay for something if it doesn't remove the ads. The podcasts I pay for have private links that have ad-free versions (except for Honestly which I'm on the fence about paying for because of it). YouTube premium removes ads, but patreon often doesn't. I think I'd seen some YouTuber with around that many subscribers say they make ~20k/yr? So it's not nothing, but definitely not enough to be full time. The bigger ones with millions of subscribers like MKBHD and such I think do really well (7 figures?), but I'd guess a lot of that is extra stuff like the sponsored deals and merch stores etc.