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this is a bit silly

by werds 4y ago

this is a bit silly

AlexandrB 4y ago
Maybe, maybe not. The mental effects of products optimized for delivering advertising don't seem to be great for people or society (see: Meta's products, Twitter, TikTok).
- whimsicalism 4y ago
  Cigarettes cause cancer. Some people (not me) actually get value from ads and AFAIK they don't cause cancer.
  - kadoban 4y ago
    No direct cancer, no, they only affect what you think, feel, say, eat, drink and do. Edit: also who you vote for, what laws are passed, who goes to prison, who lives and who dies. But no they don't _directly_ give you cancer.
  - afavour 4y ago
    Cigarettes also feel great to the people smoking them.
  - A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
    This actually is a very valid argument. Cigarettes actually provide value to the user. Yes, there are negatives, but the user typically knows those and decides the upside is worth the risk. Do people know the risks of being profiled by ad companies? I am not sure most people can even begin to understand the associated risk. The few attempts to show people what companies know about you were shut down pretty hard.
  - matheusmoreira 4y ago
    > Cigarettes cause cancer. So did the ads that told people to smoke. They were banned precisely because they were driving behavior that causes harm.
- themitigating 4y ago
  Do you have evidence as to the negative mental effects and how bad they are?
  - jeromegv 4y ago
    It’s been discussed for years in dozens of articles on hacker news and everywhere. At this point the burden is on you to show us on how being plugged to social media 24-7 is not harmful.
    - themitigating 4y ago
      No one is using it 24/7, this is about ads not social media use, and the burden isn't on disproving it just because people have talked about it often
npteljes 4y ago
Not at all. Being bombarded with every not-yet-banned psychological trick ever invented is unethical: harms privacy, makes public spaces ugly, increases waste, and when not promoting actively harmful stuff, promote stuff in harmful ways. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_advertising https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_advertising

this is a bit silly

by werds 4y ago

this is a bit silly

Maybe, maybe not. The mental effects of products optimized for delivering advertising don't seem to be great for people or society (see: Meta's products, Twitter, TikTok).

whimsicalism 4y ago
Cigarettes cause cancer. Some people (not me) actually get value from ads and AFAIK they don't cause cancer.
- kadoban 4y ago
  No direct cancer, no, they only affect what you think, feel, say, eat, drink and do. Edit: also who you vote for, what laws are passed, who goes to prison, who lives and who dies. But no they don't _directly_ give you cancer.
- afavour 4y ago
  Cigarettes also feel great to the people smoking them.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
  This actually is a very valid argument. Cigarettes actually provide value to the user. Yes, there are negatives, but the user typically knows those and decides the upside is worth the risk. Do people know the risks of being profiled by ad companies? I am not sure most people can even begin to understand the associated risk. The few attempts to show people what companies know about you were shut down pretty hard.
- matheusmoreira 4y ago
  > Cigarettes cause cancer. So did the ads that told people to smoke. They were banned precisely because they were driving behavior that causes harm.
themitigating 4y ago
Do you have evidence as to the negative mental effects and how bad they are?
- jeromegv 4y ago
  It’s been discussed for years in dozens of articles on hacker news and everywhere. At this point the burden is on you to show us on how being plugged to social media 24-7 is not harmful.
  - themitigating 4y ago
    No one is using it 24/7, this is about ads not social media use, and the burden isn't on disproving it just because people have talked about it often

npteljes 4y ago

Not at all. Being bombarded with every not-yet-banned psychological trick ever invented is unethical: harms privacy, makes public spaces ugly, increases waste, and when not promoting actively harmful stuff, promote stuff in harmful ways. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_advertising https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_advertising