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> That’s making a lot of assumptions, imagine the CEO of IBM set up his own company which he the sold to IBM. That kind of transaction is just ripe for conflict

by IncRnd 4y ago

> That’s making a lot of assumptions, imagine the CEO of IBM set up his own company which he the sold to IBM. That kind of transaction is just ripe for conflicts of interest. But, that's not what is happening HERE, which is closer to IBM still contractually paying patent royalties to a former employee of the purchased company.

Retric 4y ago
> not what happened HERE Sure but it illustrates things are complex. My personal belief is PBS should at a minimum have gotten perpetual rights to the episodes inside the US for any purpose. PS: IMO, toy sales is somewhat sketchy because the show acted like a commercial in the same way Transformers or My Little Pony did, but that's a different issue. Should they include shows with a toy line is more a question of their mission than how cost effective the deal is.
- chrismcb 4y ago
  Why? Why should they have gotten priority rights? I don't think any network gets perpetual rights, so why should pbs?
  - Retric 4y ago
    Some do, Saturday Night Live is a similarly long running and prolific show owned by NBC. As to why PBS should have negotiated, they where getting well over 100 new 1 hour episodes per year as PBS was also running a lot of reruns. I am not saying very young kids don’t deserve that much new content but PBS would have been better off owning fewer episodes they could rerun than paying for that deluge and then also paying to rerun episodes. It's one thing not to negotiate after year one, but by year 30?
    - 1123581321 4y ago
      In which year should they have renegotiated and how much of a premium should they have paid for total ownership? I think your argument is predicated on PBS being able to read the future and their partner being able to lose more control without the product suffering.
- IncRnd 4y ago
  You changed my comment in your quote. You quoted me as having written, "not what happened HERE". But, I wrote, "that's not what is happening HERE" in present tense. This is currently happening, which is present tense.
  - Retric 4y ago
    > in a reply is a prompt not a quote Though it can be used as a quote, it can also be adjusted to make a point as people can just look up. Anyway are talking about a 50 year relationship not just what happened recently.

by IncRnd 4y ago

Retric 4y ago

> not what happened HERE Sure but it illustrates things are complex. My personal belief is PBS should at a minimum have gotten perpetual rights to the episodes inside the US for any purpose. PS: IMO, toy sales is somewhat sketchy because the show acted like a commercial in the same way Transformers or My Little Pony did, but that's a different issue. Should they include shows with a toy line is more a question of their mission than how cost effective the deal is.

chrismcb 4y ago
Why? Why should they have gotten priority rights? I don't think any network gets perpetual rights, so why should pbs?
- Retric 4y ago
  Some do, Saturday Night Live is a similarly long running and prolific show owned by NBC. As to why PBS should have negotiated, they where getting well over 100 new 1 hour episodes per year as PBS was also running a lot of reruns. I am not saying very young kids don’t deserve that much new content but PBS would have been better off owning fewer episodes they could rerun than paying for that deluge and then also paying to rerun episodes. It's one thing not to negotiate after year one, but by year 30?
  - 1123581321 4y ago
    In which year should they have renegotiated and how much of a premium should they have paid for total ownership? I think your argument is predicated on PBS being able to read the future and their partner being able to lose more control without the product suffering.
IncRnd 4y ago
You changed my comment in your quote. You quoted me as having written, "not what happened HERE". But, I wrote, "that's not what is happening HERE" in present tense. This is currently happening, which is present tense.
- Retric 4y ago
  > in a reply is a prompt not a quote Though it can be used as a quote, it can also be adjusted to make a point as people can just look up. Anyway are talking about a 50 year relationship not just what happened recently.