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If I am paying for something I am not watching ads. I will cancel the service and find something else to do with my time, but I will never willingly watch ads.

kderbyma 4y ago
agree. Or of I must....it will pirated site ads....on banners around my pirated stream without video ads...
- fezfight 4y ago
  While I realize this is more of a sabre rattle than reality, hopefully in reality youre using ublock origin. You won't see any ads on that pirate stream.
- geraldwhen 4y ago
  ffmpeg -i http://source.m3u8 http://source.m3u8 -c copy out.mp4 Ads defeated.
alexfromapex 4y ago
I knew this day would come and have been preparing. Every company I thought was trustworthy has proven me wrong. So now I’ve decided to provide my own services. I have a NAS and have digitized my movie and music collection and can stream it to any TV in my house. Netflix, Disney, etc can go pound sand. It has to be this way, as long as advertising remains legal, life will slowly approach a Black Mirror episode where things we once owned will become subscriptions ad nauseum.
- amelius 4y ago
  There is a good side to the service economy: the stuff you don't own, you don't have to fix (it's the service provider's problem), and therefore there will be no planned obsolescence, and less waste.
- hotpotamus 4y ago
  I could say a bit about well paid engineers who don't pay for the content they consume - it's something I've observed everywhere I go, and I don't think it's one of our more attractive qualities (I'm in there too). I also agree that advertising is an insidious force that corrupts nearly everything it touches. The funny part to me is that my parents do a fire safety puppet show for children and can keep them enraptured for half an hour with zero budget. For centuries, people have been entertained by Punch and Judy shows. It makes me think that maybe the $20M/episode stuff we do now is impressive, but perhaps a bit over-engineered.
  - alexfromapex 4y ago
    Yeah I agree, you should still pay for the content. I buy the music off of Bleep and 7digital and own all the movies no torrenting. If I could do it over again I’d build the NAS myself to save some money since that was the most expensive upstart cost.
  - benj111 4y ago
    It isn't the over engineering that's the problem*. It's that if you're spending $20m it needs to appeal to everyone, not offend anyone, and you end up with blandness that doesn't say anything to anyone. That kind of budget suggests lots of cgi which is its own problem, but that's a different rant.
  - vladvasiliu 4y ago
    > I could say a bit about well paid engineers who don't pay for the content they consume That may cover many people, but GP's post seems different. They went out of their way to "digitize their [presumably bought] collection" just to be able to avoid ads. This doesn't sound at all like "not paying for the content", they're actually paying above the content: I don't think the NAS comes from the pirate bay. We've actually seen this in practice: when Netflix was the only game in town and carried everything ad-free, piracy cratered. Now that all the paid providers are beginning to show ads, and you have to have 50 different subscriptions to watch what you want, piracy looks better again. I don't watch many movies / series / videos, so I'm happy with what I get with my Prime subscription, which I'd have either way. But now that more and more of my Spotify tracks are "not available in my region" anymore, I'm seriously starting to investigate alternatives. Spoiler: it's not another streaming provider. Rather, looking to buy a bunch of hard drives and dusting off my old cd player, so I can rip whatever CDs I can get my hands on at second-hand stores around me.
- scarface74 4y ago
  Why is everyone acting so apocalyptic? Netflix is offering a cheaper tier with ads. If you don’t want ads, keep paying for the tier you have been paying.
  - goatlover 4y ago
    Apocalypticism is in vogue now. Everything is coming to an end.
    - ehvatum 4y ago
      Humanity has often been preoccupied by the impending end of all things. https://www.britannica.com/list/10-failed-doomsday-predictions https://www.britannica.com/list/10-failed-doomsday-predictio...
  - DocTomoe 4y ago
    Because that's how it starts. Eventually, the cheaper tier will be with more ads, the more expensive tier will no longer be ad-free, but have "some" ads. It has happened before. It will happen again.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      HBO has been ad free since the 70s. There hasn’t been a cable service or streaming service that started ad free and then didn’t offer an ad free offering
      - dreamcompiler 4y ago
        All cable networks started ad-free because they charged a monthly subscription fee, then almost all of them gradually started introducing ads in addition to the subscription fee. HBO is one of the few exceptions. The fact that cable networks let you pay a second monthly subscription fee for HBO hardly constitutes an "ad free offering."
        4y ago

kderbyma 4y ago

agree. Or of I must....it will pirated site ads....on banners around my pirated stream without video ads...

fezfight 4y ago
While I realize this is more of a sabre rattle than reality, hopefully in reality youre using ublock origin. You won't see any ads on that pirate stream.
geraldwhen 4y ago
ffmpeg -i http://source.m3u8 http://source.m3u8 -c copy out.mp4 Ads defeated.

alexfromapex 4y ago

I knew this day would come and have been preparing. Every company I thought was trustworthy has proven me wrong. So now I’ve decided to provide my own services. I have a NAS and have digitized my movie and music collection and can stream it to any TV in my house. Netflix, Disney, etc can go pound sand. It has to be this way, as long as advertising remains legal, life will slowly approach a Black Mirror episode where things we once owned will become subscriptions ad nauseum.

amelius 4y ago
There is a good side to the service economy: the stuff you don't own, you don't have to fix (it's the service provider's problem), and therefore there will be no planned obsolescence, and less waste.
hotpotamus 4y ago
I could say a bit about well paid engineers who don't pay for the content they consume - it's something I've observed everywhere I go, and I don't think it's one of our more attractive qualities (I'm in there too). I also agree that advertising is an insidious force that corrupts nearly everything it touches. The funny part to me is that my parents do a fire safety puppet show for children and can keep them enraptured for half an hour with zero budget. For centuries, people have been entertained by Punch and Judy shows. It makes me think that maybe the $20M/episode stuff we do now is impressive, but perhaps a bit over-engineered.
- alexfromapex 4y ago
  Yeah I agree, you should still pay for the content. I buy the music off of Bleep and 7digital and own all the movies no torrenting. If I could do it over again I’d build the NAS myself to save some money since that was the most expensive upstart cost.
- benj111 4y ago
  It isn't the over engineering that's the problem*. It's that if you're spending $20m it needs to appeal to everyone, not offend anyone, and you end up with blandness that doesn't say anything to anyone. That kind of budget suggests lots of cgi which is its own problem, but that's a different rant.
- vladvasiliu 4y ago
  > I could say a bit about well paid engineers who don't pay for the content they consume That may cover many people, but GP's post seems different. They went out of their way to "digitize their [presumably bought] collection" just to be able to avoid ads. This doesn't sound at all like "not paying for the content", they're actually paying above the content: I don't think the NAS comes from the pirate bay. We've actually seen this in practice: when Netflix was the only game in town and carried everything ad-free, piracy cratered. Now that all the paid providers are beginning to show ads, and you have to have 50 different subscriptions to watch what you want, piracy looks better again. I don't watch many movies / series / videos, so I'm happy with what I get with my Prime subscription, which I'd have either way. But now that more and more of my Spotify tracks are "not available in my region" anymore, I'm seriously starting to investigate alternatives. Spoiler: it's not another streaming provider. Rather, looking to buy a bunch of hard drives and dusting off my old cd player, so I can rip whatever CDs I can get my hands on at second-hand stores around me.
scarface74 4y ago
Why is everyone acting so apocalyptic? Netflix is offering a cheaper tier with ads. If you don’t want ads, keep paying for the tier you have been paying.
- goatlover 4y ago
  Apocalypticism is in vogue now. Everything is coming to an end.
  - ehvatum 4y ago
    Humanity has often been preoccupied by the impending end of all things. https://www.britannica.com/list/10-failed-doomsday-predictions https://www.britannica.com/list/10-failed-doomsday-predictio...
- DocTomoe 4y ago
  Because that's how it starts. Eventually, the cheaper tier will be with more ads, the more expensive tier will no longer be ad-free, but have "some" ads. It has happened before. It will happen again.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    HBO has been ad free since the 70s. There hasn’t been a cable service or streaming service that started ad free and then didn’t offer an ad free offering
    - dreamcompiler 4y ago
      All cable networks started ad-free because they charged a monthly subscription fee, then almost all of them gradually started introducing ads in addition to the subscription fee. HBO is one of the few exceptions. The fact that cable networks let you pay a second monthly subscription fee for HBO hardly constitutes an "ad free offering."
      - 4y ago