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Filing a provisional patent would have been nice before publishing this.

by ada1981 4y ago

amelius 4y ago
It costs money. Also, I think they would need a design-patent instead, as there is nothing technologically new about it (except perhaps the battery contact).
- j-bos 4y ago
  Provisional patents in the US are a couple hundered bucks, maybe 1000 tops if you make an llc to own them.
zulban 4y ago
Maybe he just enjoys creating and sharing. Why do people often turn to capitalism as the ultimate end goal?
- mensetmanusman 4y ago
  Patents happen to increase the likelihood that technology scales up, because it is a risk mitigation instrument for spending money on designing/building capital equipment necessary to service global demand. In a strange way, game theory with no patents dictates a first mover disadvantage, because the first mover has to waste all the money figuring out how to build these things quickly before they are copied by a fast follower who puts the first mover out of business. So the likelihood that these things stay craft projects is a bit higher with no patents.
  - systemvoltage 4y ago
    Yep, I hate Patents, but not because of their core value, but because of their expiration length. They need to have a variable length based on the type of technology, ease of manufacturing or scaling, as well as industry sector. Designed a novel ordnance for the military? 30 year patent grant. Designed a new ziptie with RFID? 5 years. Patented a rounded corner button on the iPhone? Outright reject with no refunds and a penalty for wasting time. I do see value of a patent-free society that can produce things fast and cheap, i.e. Shenzhen/Guangdong. I don't know if there is a way to have both systems co-exist in some form of a hybrid society without eliminating free markets. I also don't get the hate packaged in the form of the term "Capitalism". Usually, they mean "Crony capitalism".
    - LesZedCB 4y ago
      markets misallocating resources in the name of profit instead of public good aside -- capital, or property, often has a dubious history of ownership. nearly all of the land that factories are built on or resources are extracted from was stolen. that's not even touching surplus value. I recommend reading the first chapter or two of Capital if you want more info.
- pdntspa 4y ago
  Someone else will?
hiccuphippo 4y ago
Not doing it marks this as prior art and prevents other people from patenting it.
- afandian 4y ago
  I’m not sure it’s that simple https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_to_file_and_first_to_invent https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_to_file_and_first_to_i...
  - mesebrec 4y ago
    "First to file" only describes what happens when two conflicting patent applications get discovered for something that is patentable. Inventions that are already publicly known are not patentable because they're copies of existing ideas; not inventions. The only exception is that in some jurisdictions, the creator of an invention can wait up to a year between making their own invention public and filing a patent for it.

Filing a provisional patent would have been nice before publishing this.

It costs money. Also, I think they would need a design-patent instead, as there is nothing technologically new about it (except perhaps the battery contact).

j-bos 4y ago
Provisional patents in the US are a couple hundered bucks, maybe 1000 tops if you make an llc to own them.

zulban 4y ago

Maybe he just enjoys creating and sharing. Why do people often turn to capitalism as the ultimate end goal?

mensetmanusman 4y ago
Patents happen to increase the likelihood that technology scales up, because it is a risk mitigation instrument for spending money on designing/building capital equipment necessary to service global demand. In a strange way, game theory with no patents dictates a first mover disadvantage, because the first mover has to waste all the money figuring out how to build these things quickly before they are copied by a fast follower who puts the first mover out of business. So the likelihood that these things stay craft projects is a bit higher with no patents.
- systemvoltage 4y ago
  Yep, I hate Patents, but not because of their core value, but because of their expiration length. They need to have a variable length based on the type of technology, ease of manufacturing or scaling, as well as industry sector. Designed a novel ordnance for the military? 30 year patent grant. Designed a new ziptie with RFID? 5 years. Patented a rounded corner button on the iPhone? Outright reject with no refunds and a penalty for wasting time. I do see value of a patent-free society that can produce things fast and cheap, i.e. Shenzhen/Guangdong. I don't know if there is a way to have both systems co-exist in some form of a hybrid society without eliminating free markets. I also don't get the hate packaged in the form of the term "Capitalism". Usually, they mean "Crony capitalism".
  - LesZedCB 4y ago
    markets misallocating resources in the name of profit instead of public good aside -- capital, or property, often has a dubious history of ownership. nearly all of the land that factories are built on or resources are extracted from was stolen. that's not even touching surplus value. I recommend reading the first chapter or two of Capital if you want more info.
pdntspa 4y ago
Someone else will?

hiccuphippo 4y ago

Not doing it marks this as prior art and prevents other people from patenting it.

afandian 4y ago
I’m not sure it’s that simple https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_to_file_and_first_to_invent https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_to_file_and_first_to_i...
- mesebrec 4y ago
  "First to file" only describes what happens when two conflicting patent applications get discovered for something that is patentable. Inventions that are already publicly known are not patentable because they're copies of existing ideas; not inventions. The only exception is that in some jurisdictions, the creator of an invention can wait up to a year between making their own invention public and filing a patent for it.