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It’s preferred due to several reasons: - lack of degradation of performance due to bloated registry, fragmented disks (probably out of date but still hurts my

It’s preferred due to several reasons: - lack of degradation of performance due to bloated registry, fragmented disks (probably out of date but still hurts my soul to think out) - a control panel that doesn’t suck - several things due to its unix heritage which are far better then windows imo (case sensitive file system, bash/zsh terminal) - lack of concern regarding bloatware installed by vendors - don’t have to crap like dot net c++ extensions and other nonsense just to run something - a more stable, less crashy experience, this is anecdotal but true to me - reliable warranty and support policies, Apple absolutely kicks ass here I just want to get shit done with minimal auxillary stuff involved. And that’s why I use ios, macOS. Every aspect of it was designed thoughtfully, and not slapped together. I stopped liking windows at version 8 and have never looked back.

filchermcurr 4y ago
I prefer macOS over Windows, but I think a lot of your points are... outdated, or just outright myths to begin with. I can't find any (non-anecdotal) evidence that a "bloated" registry impacts performance at all on a modern system. If you have benchmarks or something, I would love to see them! (not being a jerk, I really would). If you think macOS applications cleanly uninstall when you drag them to the trash, that definitely is not the case. Check out ~/Library and see the ghosts of applications past. Disk fragmentation isn't an issue on SSDs. Anybody still running Windows on a spinning drive has worse problems than fragmentation. The settings situation does suck, that's absolutely true. APFS and NTFS both allow you to choose case sensitivity depending on your preference, so I'd say they're on equal footing there. PowerShell isn't that bad, but you can still use bash with WSL or cygwin if you really want to. I've always clean installed Windows, so I don't know about vendor bloatware. The bloatiest thing I can think of are shortcuts in the start menu to install ridiculous things like Candy Crush, but those are just shortcut ads, not actually installed things. Distasteful, sure, but easy enough to wipe out with a script. Anecdotally, I've had way more kernel panics in macOS than I have blue screens of death in Windows 10. The T2 fiasco alone has caused me more crashes than I can count. Anyway, I think in 2022, operating system choice is more of a personal preference thing than a technical one. They're all equally bad, just in different ways.
- csydas 4y ago
  > Anyway, I think in 2022, operating system choice is more of a personal preference thing than a technical one. They're all equally bad, just in different ways. I like most of your post since I agree with a lot of it, but I'd like to try to convince you that it's never been better to be a computer user. OSes are _mostly_ stable, have a clear design goal for users, have multiple well supported shell environments for power users, extremely strong cross-system software (i.e., you can use Firefox et. al., on basically anything), plugging in hardware very likely will "just work" for most hardware, the list goes on. Most importantly, UI/UX conventions are pretty well established regardless of the OS you pick; for example, while I'm rarely in an actual UI on the linux boxes I work with, more or less it works the way I expect based on Mac/Windows. Hitting the CMD/Meta key brings up a system search utility (this is partially happenstance from MacOS as I believe it's the default hotkey for spotlight...but I use quicksilver on ctrl+space so I might be mistaken) Even the mobile space between major Android releases and iOS are very consistent, Android having a slight blemish in the regional minor releases that lack major Android features. The point is that I think a lot of established UI/UX defaults for OSes are mature enough that edge cases or test cases are the rough edges. There are elements from each OS I miss, elements they share which are equally frustrating (truly, I wish MS and Apple would document the registry/defaults command respectively in full. Both let you tweak the system to an amazing degree to make a perfectly customizable experience, but you basically have to hope someone else has posted it on stackoverflow/reddit/whatever if you want to discover it). I grew up starting with Mac OS6 and didn't touch a Windows computer until well into my teens or use one daily until I was 20, and the adaptation period was literally a day or two. My friend was windows/linux for his entire life, saw me using my Mac for browsing tabletop PDFs when we were in university, and was intrigued by the way the UI/UX worked and has been a convert ever since, learning the UI in a few days and only a few questions. It's really never been better to be a user, and I'm kind of amazed that OS wars continue in 2022. Computers are great. Software/Tech Companies are another story... > I can't find any (non-anecdotal) evidence that a "bloated" registry impacts performance at all on a modern system. If you have benchmarks or something, I would love to see them! (not being a jerk, I really would). have to comment on this because I agree, it's a non-issue, but the number of registry cleaners that exist or people's self-invented solutions cause far more problems than they solve. Which is a pretty easy task as typically they solve 0 problems directly.
torginus 4y ago
> lack of degradation of performance due to bloated registry, Most of the performance degradation on Windows comes from all the bloatware used to spy on you (remember 'Compatibility Telemetry'?). In this regard, I find MacOS even worse (whateverd is using 100% CPU again), and it's even harder to get rid of all the spyware. I think this is one of the few ways Linux beats the competition. The UNIX heritage thing is eh. MacOS does a very cursory job of pretending to be UNIX, with usually just the very basics working. In contrast, WSL2 is mostly equivalent to working on Linux. The filesystem stuff is weird. Sometimes MacOS is case sensitive, sometimes not, sometimes it does the weird file locking thing Windows does, that I hate, sometimes not. I think each OS is crappy in its own way, and I definitely wouldn't put MacOS over Windows.
mattlondon 4y ago
For what it is worth, I've not had a modern windows install crash on me in years. I think I had a blue screen of death perhaps once with windows 7 (I think?) and was gobsmacked to see it had a qr code and a sad smiley face! How unexpected! On a Mac ai have had the beach all of death many times, even recently on M1 Macs.
krzyk 4y ago
> case sensitive file system By default it is not case sensitive. It is a counter intuitive case remember system. You can't have File.txt and file.txt in same directory. But you can have FiLe.tXt file.

filchermcurr 4y ago

I prefer macOS over Windows, but I think a lot of your points are... outdated, or just outright myths to begin with. I can't find any (non-anecdotal) evidence that a "bloated" registry impacts performance at all on a modern system. If you have benchmarks or something, I would love to see them! (not being a jerk, I really would). If you think macOS applications cleanly uninstall when you drag them to the trash, that definitely is not the case. Check out ~/Library and see the ghosts of applications past. Disk fragmentation isn't an issue on SSDs. Anybody still running Windows on a spinning drive has worse problems than fragmentation. The settings situation does suck, that's absolutely true. APFS and NTFS both allow you to choose case sensitivity depending on your preference, so I'd say they're on equal footing there. PowerShell isn't that bad, but you can still use bash with WSL or cygwin if you really want to. I've always clean installed Windows, so I don't know about vendor bloatware. The bloatiest thing I can think of are shortcuts in the start menu to install ridiculous things like Candy Crush, but those are just shortcut ads, not actually installed things. Distasteful, sure, but easy enough to wipe out with a script. Anecdotally, I've had way more kernel panics in macOS than I have blue screens of death in Windows 10. The T2 fiasco alone has caused me more crashes than I can count. Anyway, I think in 2022, operating system choice is more of a personal preference thing than a technical one. They're all equally bad, just in different ways.

csydas 4y ago
> Anyway, I think in 2022, operating system choice is more of a personal preference thing than a technical one. They're all equally bad, just in different ways. I like most of your post since I agree with a lot of it, but I'd like to try to convince you that it's never been better to be a computer user. OSes are _mostly_ stable, have a clear design goal for users, have multiple well supported shell environments for power users, extremely strong cross-system software (i.e., you can use Firefox et. al., on basically anything), plugging in hardware very likely will "just work" for most hardware, the list goes on. Most importantly, UI/UX conventions are pretty well established regardless of the OS you pick; for example, while I'm rarely in an actual UI on the linux boxes I work with, more or less it works the way I expect based on Mac/Windows. Hitting the CMD/Meta key brings up a system search utility (this is partially happenstance from MacOS as I believe it's the default hotkey for spotlight...but I use quicksilver on ctrl+space so I might be mistaken) Even the mobile space between major Android releases and iOS are very consistent, Android having a slight blemish in the regional minor releases that lack major Android features. The point is that I think a lot of established UI/UX defaults for OSes are mature enough that edge cases or test cases are the rough edges. There are elements from each OS I miss, elements they share which are equally frustrating (truly, I wish MS and Apple would document the registry/defaults command respectively in full. Both let you tweak the system to an amazing degree to make a perfectly customizable experience, but you basically have to hope someone else has posted it on stackoverflow/reddit/whatever if you want to discover it). I grew up starting with Mac OS6 and didn't touch a Windows computer until well into my teens or use one daily until I was 20, and the adaptation period was literally a day or two. My friend was windows/linux for his entire life, saw me using my Mac for browsing tabletop PDFs when we were in university, and was intrigued by the way the UI/UX worked and has been a convert ever since, learning the UI in a few days and only a few questions. It's really never been better to be a user, and I'm kind of amazed that OS wars continue in 2022. Computers are great. Software/Tech Companies are another story... > I can't find any (non-anecdotal) evidence that a "bloated" registry impacts performance at all on a modern system. If you have benchmarks or something, I would love to see them! (not being a jerk, I really would). have to comment on this because I agree, it's a non-issue, but the number of registry cleaners that exist or people's self-invented solutions cause far more problems than they solve. Which is a pretty easy task as typically they solve 0 problems directly.

torginus 4y ago

> lack of degradation of performance due to bloated registry, Most of the performance degradation on Windows comes from all the bloatware used to spy on you (remember 'Compatibility Telemetry'?). In this regard, I find MacOS even worse (whateverd is using 100% CPU again), and it's even harder to get rid of all the spyware. I think this is one of the few ways Linux beats the competition. The UNIX heritage thing is eh. MacOS does a very cursory job of pretending to be UNIX, with usually just the very basics working. In contrast, WSL2 is mostly equivalent to working on Linux. The filesystem stuff is weird. Sometimes MacOS is case sensitive, sometimes not, sometimes it does the weird file locking thing Windows does, that I hate, sometimes not. I think each OS is crappy in its own way, and I definitely wouldn't put MacOS over Windows.

mattlondon 4y ago

For what it is worth, I've not had a modern windows install crash on me in years. I think I had a blue screen of death perhaps once with windows 7 (I think?) and was gobsmacked to see it had a qr code and a sad smiley face! How unexpected! On a Mac ai have had the beach all of death many times, even recently on M1 Macs.

krzyk 4y ago

> case sensitive file system By default it is not case sensitive. It is a counter intuitive case remember system. You can't have File.txt and file.txt in same directory. But you can have FiLe.tXt file.