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There are senior engineers out there that have <4 years professional experience. I myself went from IC3 (junior) to IC5 (senior) at FB in around 3 years and thi
by dom96 4y ago
There are senior engineers out there that have <4 years professional experience. I myself went from IC3 (junior) to IC5 (senior) at FB in around 3 years and this is pretty common at FB from what I've seen.
- kasey_junk 4y agoI think the concern is that the industry, including Facebook, has decided that the designation “senior” is a thing you can get in <5 years. It’s a norm in software so it’s easy to see examples of it, and in practice who cares what the titles were if they are used consistently. But what if you were outside the industry and heard that term? A senior judge typically has decades under their belt. A senior chief petty officer is the second highest non-commissioned rank in the navy implying a whole career behind them. They might infer it only takes three years of experience to reach the near top of the software craft.
- polio 4y agoIt feels similar to the title bloat of Goldman Sachs, where a lot of people are Vice Presidents.
- kasey_junk 4y agoIn certain regulated or audited environments you’ll see rules like “only a person at the VP level or higher can make decision xyz”. It’s just as stupid but there is a different reason for it.
- joshuamorton 4y ago> A senior judge typically has decades under their belt. A senior judge is also quite literally a semi-retirement role. You take on reduced workload. > But what if you were outside the industry and heard that term? "Senior Associates" in the legal profession are junior/mid roles, similarly, senior account managers etc. aren't particularly senior in most places. In white collar roles, a "senior" is really just a distinction of independence and reliability.