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Is money laundering evil? It depends on your morality. Let's assume we're talking about tax evasion: the government is telling its citizens "Give me 50% of yo

Is money laundering evil? It depends on your morality. Let's assume we're talking about tax evasion: the government is telling its citizens "Give me 50% of your profit or I'll put you in jail". This is violence and it's immoral. Escaping this violence is not a crime in my book. Let's assume we're talking about trafficking illicit substances: the government is telling its citizens "Don't trade these items with each other or I'll put you in jail". This is violence and it's immoral. Escaping this violence is not a crime in my book. Let's assume we're talking about people corrupting politicians: this is immoral but, on top of often going unpunished in the current system - it's unfixable. The only way to reduce this occurrence is by reducing (or entirely eliminating) the power centralised in the hands of politicians so that no-one will want to corrupt them. No need to monitor all financial transactions. Let's assume we're talking about people killing other people: this is obviously immoral. Still, pick any "legal" war initiated by government and you'll find more dead innocents than what crime cause. Are we preventing money transactions to maintain our army? And then, is tracking this ill gotten gains an efficient way of improving the situation? I think it will be largely ineffective, it's much easier to foster a society where we have private protection services that work, instead of an inefficient police force collecting a paycheck from the taxpayers regardless of performance. When you wield an hammer everything looks like a nail - but monitoring citizens like in 1984 is a inefficient solution meant to fix symptoms of bigger problems: namely our centralisation and dependance on a central government, their monopoly to violence and their obsession with regulating our lives, certainly "for our own good" and not to exercise and maintain their power.

Nursie 4y ago
All taxation is theft and what's more that makes it violence! I am the ultimate authority in my life, you can't tell me what to do! Governments suck because war is bad! I don't need regulations at all! This is so full of fallacious assumptions and facile ancap thinking it's hilarious.
Cederfjard 4y ago
> Let's assume we're talking about tax evasion: the government is telling its citizens "Give me 50% of your profit or I'll put you in jail". This is violence and it's immoral. I could just as well say "hoarding resources and not sharing them with the rest of society, just because you're able to, deprives others. This is violence and immoral." That's not necessarily my personal view, but do you see how morals can differ? > Escaping this violence is not a crime in my book. The key concept there being that it's "your" book. Laws are not objective and absolute, they're the result of the society they exist in, preferably (in my and most people's opinion) derived from democratic participation. Your book is not aligned with the laws of the country you live in. You can lobby to change that, but it does not mean that the laws are invalid or shouldn't apply.
imtringued 4y ago
The real world is filled with forces that want to crush you. The government creates an alternative reality game with law and order to isolate you from the harshness of reality. If you complain about the only source of violence to you being the government, then congratulations the system is working for you. Some poor, especially black people think the opposite, that their government has abandoned them and left them exposed to both violence by fellow people and authorities who abuse their powers. What do they want? To be treated like their rich or white fellow citizens.
- coldacid 4y ago
  The government is one of those forces that want to crush you. Given that situation, I'd rather choose my particular foes than have one thrust upon me.

Nursie 4y ago

All taxation is theft and what's more that makes it violence! I am the ultimate authority in my life, you can't tell me what to do! Governments suck because war is bad! I don't need regulations at all! This is so full of fallacious assumptions and facile ancap thinking it's hilarious.

Cederfjard 4y ago

> Let's assume we're talking about tax evasion: the government is telling its citizens "Give me 50% of your profit or I'll put you in jail". This is violence and it's immoral. I could just as well say "hoarding resources and not sharing them with the rest of society, just because you're able to, deprives others. This is violence and immoral." That's not necessarily my personal view, but do you see how morals can differ? > Escaping this violence is not a crime in my book. The key concept there being that it's "your" book. Laws are not objective and absolute, they're the result of the society they exist in, preferably (in my and most people's opinion) derived from democratic participation. Your book is not aligned with the laws of the country you live in. You can lobby to change that, but it does not mean that the laws are invalid or shouldn't apply.

imtringued 4y ago

The real world is filled with forces that want to crush you. The government creates an alternative reality game with law and order to isolate you from the harshness of reality. If you complain about the only source of violence to you being the government, then congratulations the system is working for you. Some poor, especially black people think the opposite, that their government has abandoned them and left them exposed to both violence by fellow people and authorities who abuse their powers. What do they want? To be treated like their rich or white fellow citizens.

coldacid 4y ago
The government is one of those forces that want to crush you. Given that situation, I'd rather choose my particular foes than have one thrust upon me.