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What a sad frightened person you must be.

by jakeinspace 4y ago

Apocryphon 4y ago
Their real name must be Poe Slaw.
throwawaysleep 4y ago
- fumar 4y ago
- qwerpy 4y ago
  I concur. I'd much rather deal with rich people problems (overzealous HOAs, ostentatious sports cars, being judged when I don't have an immaculate lawn) than the ones you describe. Online discourse is heavily biased against openly saying these things, but as we can see, apparently people quietly believe it nonetheless.
- mikeyouse 4y ago
  They were talking about allowing the construction of ADU's to accommodate "low income" people per the RHNA - Low Income in San Mateo county is a 2-person household making $117k/year or a family of 4 earning $146k/year. I don't think you need to worry about pee on the sidewalks and "smoking". https://www.hcd.ca.gov/grants-funding/income-limits/state-and-federal-income-limits/docs/income-limits-2021.pdf https://www.hcd.ca.gov/grants-funding/income-limits/state-an...
qwerpy 4y ago
As a parent I also prioritize cleanliness and low crime over pretty much anything else. The difference between Marc and I is that I don't pretend to not be a NIMBY. If this causes me to be labeled online as a sad frightened person, so be it.
- computerdork 4y ago
  Can understand this, as I own a home in the East Bay, but I fight the urge to be a NIMBY, because I've come to realize, it's not good for the area in the long run. One of the main causes of our homeless problem is our high-housing cost. At least from what I've read, the Bay Area has such a high-level of homelessness because people who normally can afford apartments can't and are forced on to the streets. We have some of the highest housing costs in the world, and if prices keep going up, homelessness and crime will get worse and worse. We need to bring prices down (or at least keep them from going up like crazy as they have been) so that we can support a range of workers, from cooks and teachers to well-educated techies and business people. Just my two cents.
  - rootos 4y ago
    Or they can move to someplace they can afford?
    - paulryanrogers 4y ago
      Then who will do the lawn care, cook, and serve? Will they have to commute hours everyday to make coffee and clean floors? It's absurd. Communities are most healthy with a mix of income levels intermingled.
      - midoridensha 4y ago
        >Then who will do the lawn care, cook, and serve? Will they have to commute hours everyday to make coffee and clean floors? Sure, why not? They can then charge a fortune for these services because of the commute time. And for restaurants and the like, they can simply charge extremely high prices to eat there, to pay for workers needing to commute so far. And if the wealthy people refuse to pay for that, the restaurants can just go out of business, and the wealthy people can just cook their own food at home. I don't really see the problem here, except that this wouldn't result in a healthy community, but it seems these wealthy assholes don't actually want healthy communities. So maybe the healthy communities should be elsewhere, and the wealthy NIMBYs can just live in their own enclave and cook their own food and clean their own floors.

What a sad frightened person you must be.

Apocryphon 4y ago

Their real name must be Poe Slaw.

throwawaysleep 4y ago

fumar 4y ago
qwerpy 4y ago
I concur. I'd much rather deal with rich people problems (overzealous HOAs, ostentatious sports cars, being judged when I don't have an immaculate lawn) than the ones you describe. Online discourse is heavily biased against openly saying these things, but as we can see, apparently people quietly believe it nonetheless.
mikeyouse 4y ago
They were talking about allowing the construction of ADU's to accommodate "low income" people per the RHNA - Low Income in San Mateo county is a 2-person household making $117k/year or a family of 4 earning $146k/year. I don't think you need to worry about pee on the sidewalks and "smoking". https://www.hcd.ca.gov/grants-funding/income-limits/state-and-federal-income-limits/docs/income-limits-2021.pdf https://www.hcd.ca.gov/grants-funding/income-limits/state-an...

qwerpy 4y ago

As a parent I also prioritize cleanliness and low crime over pretty much anything else. The difference between Marc and I is that I don't pretend to not be a NIMBY. If this causes me to be labeled online as a sad frightened person, so be it.

computerdork 4y ago
Can understand this, as I own a home in the East Bay, but I fight the urge to be a NIMBY, because I've come to realize, it's not good for the area in the long run. One of the main causes of our homeless problem is our high-housing cost. At least from what I've read, the Bay Area has such a high-level of homelessness because people who normally can afford apartments can't and are forced on to the streets. We have some of the highest housing costs in the world, and if prices keep going up, homelessness and crime will get worse and worse. We need to bring prices down (or at least keep them from going up like crazy as they have been) so that we can support a range of workers, from cooks and teachers to well-educated techies and business people. Just my two cents.
- rootos 4y ago
  Or they can move to someplace they can afford?
  - paulryanrogers 4y ago
    Then who will do the lawn care, cook, and serve? Will they have to commute hours everyday to make coffee and clean floors? It's absurd. Communities are most healthy with a mix of income levels intermingled.
    - midoridensha 4y ago
      >Then who will do the lawn care, cook, and serve? Will they have to commute hours everyday to make coffee and clean floors? Sure, why not? They can then charge a fortune for these services because of the commute time. And for restaurants and the like, they can simply charge extremely high prices to eat there, to pay for workers needing to commute so far. And if the wealthy people refuse to pay for that, the restaurants can just go out of business, and the wealthy people can just cook their own food at home. I don't really see the problem here, except that this wouldn't result in a healthy community, but it seems these wealthy assholes don't actually want healthy communities. So maybe the healthy communities should be elsewhere, and the wealthy NIMBYs can just live in their own enclave and cook their own food and clean their own floors.