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> a range of 4,250 nautical miles. > Need a part from GuangZhu CAN-LAX is 6,284 nm. > Ohio to Munich OK that can work, CLE-MUC is 3,759 nm.

by chx 4y ago

Turing_Machine 4y ago
> CAN-LAX is 6,284 nm. Just add a refueling stop at ANC, the same as most cargo flights today (and the same as most passenger flights in the past). According to a Great Circle mapper, CAN-ANC-LAX is only about 250 km longer than CAN-LAX.
- snovv_crash 4y ago
  Descending and climbing again will take a lot of fuel, jets are only efficient at high altitude. Plus of course the extra takeoff and landing adding cycles to the airframe.
  - Turing_Machine 4y ago
    Sure, but if it's the difference between "can" and "can't"... It's a small enough issue that it's the routine route for cargo flights between China and the U.S. West Coast. Anchorage is the second-largest cargo airport in the United States (after FedEx's home base in Memphis).
    - Scoundreller 4y ago
      Part of that is because cargo usually runs on old and inefficient planes, so they really benefit from “intermediate stop operations”. Carrying all that extra fuel for a direct long-haul adds 10-15% in fuel costs.
krallja 4y ago
CLE-MUC also has about 1/3 of the route over land, which you’d have to fly subsonic.
- jandrese 4y ago
  Maybe fly up Lake Erie and Ontario, then cut across New York, New Hampshire, and Vermont? You still end up over land for that last part, and you're going to rattle windows in Niagara, but it probably cuts half an hour off of the trip or so, maybe a little more.
- Scoundreller 4y ago
  Ah pffft, those are other people problems. Wealthy people want to get around quickly. What’s a few shattered windows and waking up entire states with bangs at 3am? They shouldn’t have chosen to live under a flight path between an organ donor and recipient.
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samstave 4y ago
I FUKN LOVE that someone on HN spent the effort to determine if my BS was airport-code ready. God, I fn Love you.

> a range of 4,250 nautical miles. > Need a part from GuangZhu CAN-LAX is 6,284 nm. > Ohio to Munich OK that can work, CLE-MUC is 3,759 nm.

by chx 4y ago

> a range of 4,250 nautical miles. > Need a part from GuangZhu CAN-LAX is 6,284 nm. > Ohio to Munich OK that can work, CLE-MUC is 3,759 nm.

Turing_Machine 4y ago

> CAN-LAX is 6,284 nm. Just add a refueling stop at ANC, the same as most cargo flights today (and the same as most passenger flights in the past). According to a Great Circle mapper, CAN-ANC-LAX is only about 250 km longer than CAN-LAX.

snovv_crash 4y ago
Descending and climbing again will take a lot of fuel, jets are only efficient at high altitude. Plus of course the extra takeoff and landing adding cycles to the airframe.
- Turing_Machine 4y ago
  Sure, but if it's the difference between "can" and "can't"... It's a small enough issue that it's the routine route for cargo flights between China and the U.S. West Coast. Anchorage is the second-largest cargo airport in the United States (after FedEx's home base in Memphis).
  - Scoundreller 4y ago
    Part of that is because cargo usually runs on old and inefficient planes, so they really benefit from “intermediate stop operations”. Carrying all that extra fuel for a direct long-haul adds 10-15% in fuel costs.

krallja 4y ago

CLE-MUC also has about 1/3 of the route over land, which you’d have to fly subsonic.

jandrese 4y ago
Maybe fly up Lake Erie and Ontario, then cut across New York, New Hampshire, and Vermont? You still end up over land for that last part, and you're going to rattle windows in Niagara, but it probably cuts half an hour off of the trip or so, maybe a little more.
Scoundreller 4y ago
Ah pffft, those are other people problems. Wealthy people want to get around quickly. What’s a few shattered windows and waking up entire states with bangs at 3am? They shouldn’t have chosen to live under a flight path between an organ donor and recipient.

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samstave 4y ago

I FUKN LOVE that someone on HN spent the effort to determine if my BS was airport-code ready. God, I fn Love you.