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There are definitely people who can get work done in a flight, but honestly I have a hard time imagining logging 7 hours. Maybe if you have a lot of reading to

by rtpg 4y ago

There are definitely people who can get work done in a flight, but honestly I have a hard time imagining logging 7 hours. Maybe if you have a lot of reading to do?

cjrp 4y ago
I'm the same, but I'm imagining the "super serious business people" who are presumably the target market for these planes (given the price). Is it worth the premium to get them from London to NYC in 4 hours, when they could do 5 hours of billable work in the lounge/on the plane anyway.
- Scoundreller 4y ago
  Depends on how well you can sleep I guess. US to Europe is almost entirely overnight flights. Not so much the other way though.
afavour 4y ago
I do too, but I also don't have a huge amount of experience sitting in an incredibly comfortable first class seat. I imagine I'd get a lot more done than I do in coach. I think if I had a decent internet connection (happening more and more) and comfortable seat I'd happily take a 7/8 hour flight over a 5 hour one in a coach-style seat.
- everforward 4y ago
  I fly first class a fair bit, and I struggle to get anything done on the plane (in the terminal is fine, though). For me, there's no way to take a good break on a plane. I can't really get up and stretch my legs (unless you try to pace the aisle), and any kind of distraction is going to be on a screen. It is more comfortable than coach, but it's still not really comfortable. Coach is actively uncomfortable, first class is just kind of neutral; not actively comfortable or uncomfortable. I usually get more done sitting in the terminal than I do on the plane itself.
  - s1artibartfast 4y ago
    I fly business a few times a year and almost always treat it as rest and relaxation. The chance for quiet downtime that I won't get on the trip and rarely get at home as well. 10 hours of extra sleep, reading, and podcasts. It seems like most passengers do the same thing. Trying to smash actual work into the flight is miserable.
    - ghaff 4y ago
      For me, it's a good chance to watch a movie and maybe read a book (which I don't do often enough at home). I'm may be an outlier but I don't really care if I have Internet on a flight or not. If I have a lie-flat business class option with decent food, getting to my destination a few hours early with less comfortable seating isn't a clear win. Like most people, I'm not jetting over to London to have lunch and sign a deal and heading home to sleep in my own bed.
      - username223 4y ago
        > Like most people, I'm not jetting over to London to have lunch and sign a deal and heading home to sleep in my own bed. Thank you for enlightening me. As someone nowhere near rich enough for this to be relevant, my upper bound for pleasant W-E transatlantic flight is being able to sleep. Shortening that sleep seems like a loss. But if you have a private jet on call, you can skip connecting flights, airport security, schedules, and all the things that actually make flying slow and miserable. I guess this company is aiming at the people who don’t quite have that kind of money.
        ghaff 4y ago
        There is, in general, a very big gap between private and cost-doesn't-matter commercial. And, no, I can't speak to what flying private is like. Flying can still be a hassle flying business/first mostly because of cancellations/schedule changes--which can still happen otherwise because of weather, air traffic, etc.--but is less frequent I assume. A lot of the hassles of commercial flight (security lines, lack of overhead space, airport crowds in the waiting area, cramped seating, etc.) can be mitigated to a significant degree however.

by rtpg 4y ago

There are definitely people who can get work done in a flight, but honestly I have a hard time imagining logging 7 hours. Maybe if you have a lot of reading to do?

cjrp 4y ago

I'm the same, but I'm imagining the "super serious business people" who are presumably the target market for these planes (given the price). Is it worth the premium to get them from London to NYC in 4 hours, when they could do 5 hours of billable work in the lounge/on the plane anyway.

Scoundreller 4y ago
Depends on how well you can sleep I guess. US to Europe is almost entirely overnight flights. Not so much the other way though.

afavour 4y ago

I do too, but I also don't have a huge amount of experience sitting in an incredibly comfortable first class seat. I imagine I'd get a lot more done than I do in coach. I think if I had a decent internet connection (happening more and more) and comfortable seat I'd happily take a 7/8 hour flight over a 5 hour one in a coach-style seat.

everforward 4y ago
I fly first class a fair bit, and I struggle to get anything done on the plane (in the terminal is fine, though). For me, there's no way to take a good break on a plane. I can't really get up and stretch my legs (unless you try to pace the aisle), and any kind of distraction is going to be on a screen. It is more comfortable than coach, but it's still not really comfortable. Coach is actively uncomfortable, first class is just kind of neutral; not actively comfortable or uncomfortable. I usually get more done sitting in the terminal than I do on the plane itself.
- s1artibartfast 4y ago
  I fly business a few times a year and almost always treat it as rest and relaxation. The chance for quiet downtime that I won't get on the trip and rarely get at home as well. 10 hours of extra sleep, reading, and podcasts. It seems like most passengers do the same thing. Trying to smash actual work into the flight is miserable.
  - ghaff 4y ago
    For me, it's a good chance to watch a movie and maybe read a book (which I don't do often enough at home). I'm may be an outlier but I don't really care if I have Internet on a flight or not. If I have a lie-flat business class option with decent food, getting to my destination a few hours early with less comfortable seating isn't a clear win. Like most people, I'm not jetting over to London to have lunch and sign a deal and heading home to sleep in my own bed.
    - username223 4y ago
      > Like most people, I'm not jetting over to London to have lunch and sign a deal and heading home to sleep in my own bed. Thank you for enlightening me. As someone nowhere near rich enough for this to be relevant, my upper bound for pleasant W-E transatlantic flight is being able to sleep. Shortening that sleep seems like a loss. But if you have a private jet on call, you can skip connecting flights, airport security, schedules, and all the things that actually make flying slow and miserable. I guess this company is aiming at the people who don’t quite have that kind of money.
      - ghaff 4y ago
        There is, in general, a very big gap between private and cost-doesn't-matter commercial. And, no, I can't speak to what flying private is like. Flying can still be a hassle flying business/first mostly because of cancellations/schedule changes--which can still happen otherwise because of weather, air traffic, etc.--but is less frequent I assume. A lot of the hassles of commercial flight (security lines, lack of overhead space, airport crowds in the waiting area, cramped seating, etc.) can be mitigated to a significant degree however.