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“Y2K was a hoax”, is an example of this bias.

by clarge1120 4y ago

_int3_ 4y ago
Then why South Korea and Italy didn't suffer Y2K problems. And invested little to nothing in Y2K remediation.
- cyberge99 4y ago
  Little reliance on Y2K impacted platforms?
  - _int3_ 4y ago
    Like what platforms?
- MattPalmer1086 4y ago
  Y2k wasn't a hoax but it was exploited and hyped. There was definitely the possibility of really bad impacts on critical infrastructure. If we had all behaved like Italy then I think it could have been quite bad. The majority of y2k work I saw on the ground was companies using it as an excuse to upgrade all their kit. I did some assessments and was asked more than once to emphasise the risk a bit more.
  - _int3_ 4y ago
    And also Russia , country with nuclear arsenal, did nothing for Y2K
- googlryas 4y ago
  I invested little to nothing in tiger remediation, and lo and behold, no tigers!
  - _int3_ 4y ago
    Imagine if you did invest. You would be called sucker.
    - googlryas 4y ago
      That really depends if you live in Iowa or Sumatra.
- anonporridge 4y ago
  I'd love to see a source for that. This article from 1999 I found suggests that South Korea was worried about North Korea's preparedness for Y2K, https://www.deseret.com/1999/12/17/19480898/s-korea-worried-north-isn-t-prepared-for-y2k https://www.deseret.com/1999/12/17/19480898/s-korea-worried-.... That seems to suggest that South Korea itself would have been making sure its own systems were secure. Is it simply possible that most of their systems were newer than those in other countries, so updates weren't necessary?
someweirdperson 4y ago
We'll be able to retry the same scenario but without preparation in 16 years.
- zoover2020 4y ago
  Why without preparation? We all know the epoch integer will overflow on 32-bit systems in 20388
  - someweirdperson 4y ago
    Because as it seems Y2K was a hoax (see ggp), so why should we prepare next time? Plus, noone in charge to decide will understand the significance of such a weird date.
    - charlieyu1 4y ago
      The systems that would have suffered the most, are the old Cobol systems that used to run the world. They were mostly fixed in Y2K. Taiwan and Japan have their own version of Y2K problem in 2011 and 2025 respectively due to era names. Nothing big happened for Taiwan, and I can't see big problems coming up in 2025 or 2038.

“Y2K was a hoax”, is an example of this bias.

_int3_ 4y ago

Then why South Korea and Italy didn't suffer Y2K problems. And invested little to nothing in Y2K remediation.

cyberge99 4y ago
Little reliance on Y2K impacted platforms?
- _int3_ 4y ago
  Like what platforms?
MattPalmer1086 4y ago
Y2k wasn't a hoax but it was exploited and hyped. There was definitely the possibility of really bad impacts on critical infrastructure. If we had all behaved like Italy then I think it could have been quite bad. The majority of y2k work I saw on the ground was companies using it as an excuse to upgrade all their kit. I did some assessments and was asked more than once to emphasise the risk a bit more.
- _int3_ 4y ago
  And also Russia , country with nuclear arsenal, did nothing for Y2K
googlryas 4y ago
I invested little to nothing in tiger remediation, and lo and behold, no tigers!
- _int3_ 4y ago
  Imagine if you did invest. You would be called sucker.
  - googlryas 4y ago
    That really depends if you live in Iowa or Sumatra.
anonporridge 4y ago
I'd love to see a source for that. This article from 1999 I found suggests that South Korea was worried about North Korea's preparedness for Y2K, https://www.deseret.com/1999/12/17/19480898/s-korea-worried-north-isn-t-prepared-for-y2k https://www.deseret.com/1999/12/17/19480898/s-korea-worried-.... That seems to suggest that South Korea itself would have been making sure its own systems were secure. Is it simply possible that most of their systems were newer than those in other countries, so updates weren't necessary?

someweirdperson 4y ago

We'll be able to retry the same scenario but without preparation in 16 years.

zoover2020 4y ago
Why without preparation? We all know the epoch integer will overflow on 32-bit systems in 20388
- someweirdperson 4y ago
  Because as it seems Y2K was a hoax (see ggp), so why should we prepare next time? Plus, noone in charge to decide will understand the significance of such a weird date.
  - charlieyu1 4y ago
    The systems that would have suffered the most, are the old Cobol systems that used to run the world. They were mostly fixed in Y2K. Taiwan and Japan have their own version of Y2K problem in 2011 and 2025 respectively due to era names. Nothing big happened for Taiwan, and I can't see big problems coming up in 2025 or 2038.