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> Also there's really no reason that I won't be able to keep my car another 8 years, making it a 20 year car. In northwestern Europe, the reason would be low e
by markvdb 4y ago
> Also there's really no reason that I won't be able to keep my car another 8 years, making it a 20 year car.
In northwestern Europe, the reason would be low emission zones. "Sorry, this type of car is not allowed here anymore." is a real thing here.
- oynqr 4y agoIn reality I have only seen this happen to old/bad cars with equally bad diesel engines.
- markvdb 4y agoTake Brussels, the EU capital. Euro 4 diesel cars are forbidden there now. Euro 5 became mandatory for new car registrations in 2011 [0]. That means 11 years old cars could still be Euro 4. These are not old or bad cars to a lot of people. Many are not able to afford car mobility anymore due to low emission zone restrictions on these cars. It's easy for the upper middle class or above running society to develop a blind spot for this. "Just buy recent a second hand car or a new Dacia Spring" is not the answer if the money for that is missing. Has enough attention been paid to this social side of the low emissions zones? I'm not so sure. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_standards#Emission_standards_for_passenger_cars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_standards#Em...
- _ph_ 4y agoParis is going to lock out parts of the city for ICE cars in 24.
- bb88 4y agoIn the US there are large areas where gas powered vehicles are going to be needed for at least 3 or 4 more decades.
- IshKebab 4y agoOnly for diesel cars and only in certain cities and you can still drive there if you pay a fine. It's perfectly reasonable.
- bb88 4y agoWhere I live, we have to do emissions testing. And it passed this year. The emissions testing was a result of the 1970s/1980s smog crisis.