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They should ban all plastic bottles, go back to glass. Or put a deposit of the cost of the beverage on every bottle. if the beverage cost 1 USD, you pay $2 an
by jmclnx 4y ago
They should ban all plastic bottles, go back to glass.
Or put a deposit of the cost of the beverage on every bottle. if the beverage cost 1 USD, you pay $2 and you get the $1 back when you return the bottle. Price increases, deposit increases.
- ricardobeat 4y agoAluminum would be a great alternative, if it didn’t have to be coated with plastic to avoid reacting with the contents…
- cgb223 4y agoIncentivizes people to pick up littered bottles as well
- emkoemko 4y agoit already does look at Brazil they collect the most because the poor go around collecting them for money.
- emkoemko 4y agohuh? this is common practice all over the world... you pay a bit extra when you return the bottles, cans etc to recycling facility you get back the extra you payed... where do you live that this is not happening?
- epolanski 4y agoI've lived and traveled most Europe and the Netherlands are the only place where I have seen this happening.
- alexott 4y agoIn Germany you pay 25 cents for recyclable bottle or 15 for reusable bottle…
- notpushkin 4y agoIn Estonia it's 10 cents per bottle/can, in Finland it can vary from 10 to 40 cents I think. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container-deposit_legislation#Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container-deposit_legislation#...
- jgwil2 4y agoWhere do you live that the deposit is 100% of the cost of the beverage? In the US some states will pay for bottles but it's generally a tiny amount, not worth the inconvenience for most people.
- kshacker 4y agoI am not sure what's the term CRV or CV but where I live in CA it is definitely not 1 buck per bottle. Probably 5 cents. The coke/water bottle costs a lot more so adding 5 cents is a small tax and does not do much to change the behavior.
- emkoemko 4y agooh yea its not a large tax but it is happening for a long time, for sure we should just have dispensers and you bring your own bottle, just like we have now for shopping bags they are all gone you have to bring your own bag. This way you buy a nice metal or what ever bottle and reuse it for years.
- LadyCailin 4y agoThat's the problem. The deposit cost should be an outsized portion of the total cost.
- jmclnx 4y agoDepends upon the state and only on some bottles. Plus the deposit is so low, no one returns the bottles.
- cortesoft 4y agoThere are people who go through every garbage can in my neighborhood every week looking for cans and bottles, so obviously someone returns them.
- jmclnx 4y agoIn the suburbs ? In some neighborhood people going trough trash will get hassled by the police. In the city (a poor city) were I live, people going through the trash are generaly chased away. Plus to go through everyone's trash you would need lots of people in the neighborhood, can you image the impact if that happens ? Plus, ever try and return a bottle as a "trash collector" ? Stores will throw you out claiming the bottle was not purchased in the store. So I would say 90% of bottles thrown out end up in a land-fill or in the sea.
- cortesoft 4y agoThis is in the suburbs of Los Angeles. No one chases the guy who comes around to collect bottles from our recycling, because he is careful and doesn’t knock over the bins. Some of us leave the bottles and cans on the side of our trash cans to make it easier for him. He is always friendly when I say hi to him. I am not sure what you mean by the store turning you away… there is a location where you turn the bottles and cans in to get paid, it is not connected to a store. It is run by the government.
- phtrivier 4y agoIt _used_ to be very common in Europe. Now it's rarer, although still present in Belgium and Alsace, notably for beer. Plastic bottles killed the "consigne", and it seems like we have neither the infrastructure, nor the will, to bring it back. https://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/article/2017/11/15/recyclage-comment-la-consigne-a-disparu-en-france_5215413_4355770.html https://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/article/2017/11/15/recy... I don't know which geopolitical crisis might put us on a different track. A massive shortage of corn sugar ? A popular hoax making parents believe that plastic bottles will turn their kids gay ?
- nightski 4y agoPlastic is far safer than glass at many venues though. Broken glass in or around water, or broken glass at a sports stadium with lots of kids is problematic for example.
- emkoemko 4y agothen don't bring your drink to a water park? or sports stadium? wow.... or maybe they we have metal bottles? that you can reuse for a long time
- brohoolio 4y agoGlass is a terrible idea because of litter. The beaches around here used to be unusable because of the amount of glass in the sand. Nothing like a kiddo screaming because of a chunk of glass in their foot to make you change your mind. Higher deposit for plastic sounds good to me.
- slimsag 4y agoPeople also seem to forget glass bottles are very energy intensive to produce and recycle, 3.69 MJ for glass and only 0.21 MJ for a PET bottle. The real answer is in giving people clean drinking water at the tap IMO, so many people use bottled water exclusively.
- _vdpp 4y agoWith some exceptions (e.g. Flint, MI) tap water is very clean already, cleaner than a lot of bottled water in some cases.
- slimsag 4y agoyep - but that doesn't do much good if people overwhelmingly /think/ otherwise.
- rogerclark 4y agoHave you ever had tap water from San Jose, Los Angeles, or Las Vegas?
- speed_spread 4y agoMaybe we should also stop building cities in arid regions, expecting that remote water resources will keep feeding them.
- _vdpp 4y agoVegas, yes. What was wrong with it?
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