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To be fair, banning guns seems to also ban mass shootings.

by MaysonL 4y ago

pitaj 4y ago
At face value, it may seem to, but whether it practically would, in the US especially, is a totally different question.
- hsbauauvhabzb 4y ago
  At the very least the reduced access would reduce occurrences and fatality rates. UK and Australia are probably good comparable cultures/case studies.
- MaysonL 4y ago
  Are there countries where guns have been banned, and mass shootings increase? Are there countries where banned guns have been allowed, and mass shootings increased?
  - Alupis 4y ago
    Other countries have their own version of mass shootings. They often involve knives, explosives, or vehicles instead. You trade one for the other. Mentally unstable/unhealthy people commit mass violent acts regardless of the tools available. In practically zero cases of mass shootings was the assailant completely mentally healthy. Taking away one particular violent tool is not going to solve the mental health problem in this country.
    - bb88 4y ago
      > They often involve knives, explosives, or vehicles instead. Which, btw, are all regulated in the US.
- pksebben 4y ago
  https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/australian-firearms-buyback-and-its-effect-gun-deaths https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/australi...
junofan 4y ago
Only when you ignore all the countries it doesn’t. Somalia banned guns.
- pksebben 4y ago
  a comparison between the us and somalia making about as much sense as it appears to at face value.
phpisthebest 4y ago
Banning gun Free Zones, and allowing armed citizens will do the same thing See Indiana Mall Shooting
- vkou 4y ago
  Or, you get a bloodbath, like what happened in Kenosha, where everyone (except the first person who was killed) involved was convinced they were the good guy with a gun. In the fog of war of an active shooting, nobody has any idea of who is the threat, and who is responding to the threat, and nobody has time to sit around and wait for 8 months for a jury to determine whether the shooting was justified or not.
  - phpisthebest 4y ago
    We are going to have to agree to disagree on what happened in Kenosha.... Because your rendition of events as no match for what was reveled in trial, and other sources
    - vkou 4y ago
      When you're in an active situation you don't have time to wait 8 months for a trial to clear things up. Rittenhouse believed he acted in self-defense... And at the time, so did Huber, and Grosskreutz.
      - Alupis 4y ago
        This seems to be a complete re-writing of the facts revealed from eye witness and video accounts of the events of that evening. The jury also seems to disagree with this alternate narrative. It may be what some folks want to believe happened, but it is absolutely not the facts.
        bb88 4y ago
        > The jury also seems to disagree with this alternate narrative. The prosecution couldn't bring to the stand the people he killed -- because they were dead.

To be fair, banning guns seems to also ban mass shootings.

pitaj 4y ago

At face value, it may seem to, but whether it practically would, in the US especially, is a totally different question.

hsbauauvhabzb 4y ago
At the very least the reduced access would reduce occurrences and fatality rates. UK and Australia are probably good comparable cultures/case studies.
MaysonL 4y ago
Are there countries where guns have been banned, and mass shootings increase? Are there countries where banned guns have been allowed, and mass shootings increased?
- Alupis 4y ago
  Other countries have their own version of mass shootings. They often involve knives, explosives, or vehicles instead. You trade one for the other. Mentally unstable/unhealthy people commit mass violent acts regardless of the tools available. In practically zero cases of mass shootings was the assailant completely mentally healthy. Taking away one particular violent tool is not going to solve the mental health problem in this country.
  - bb88 4y ago
    > They often involve knives, explosives, or vehicles instead. Which, btw, are all regulated in the US.
pksebben 4y ago
https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/australian-firearms-buyback-and-its-effect-gun-deaths https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/australi...

junofan 4y ago

Only when you ignore all the countries it doesn’t. Somalia banned guns.

pksebben 4y ago
a comparison between the us and somalia making about as much sense as it appears to at face value.

phpisthebest 4y ago

Banning gun Free Zones, and allowing armed citizens will do the same thing See Indiana Mall Shooting

vkou 4y ago
Or, you get a bloodbath, like what happened in Kenosha, where everyone (except the first person who was killed) involved was convinced they were the good guy with a gun. In the fog of war of an active shooting, nobody has any idea of who is the threat, and who is responding to the threat, and nobody has time to sit around and wait for 8 months for a jury to determine whether the shooting was justified or not.
- phpisthebest 4y ago
  We are going to have to agree to disagree on what happened in Kenosha.... Because your rendition of events as no match for what was reveled in trial, and other sources
  - vkou 4y ago
    When you're in an active situation you don't have time to wait 8 months for a trial to clear things up. Rittenhouse believed he acted in self-defense... And at the time, so did Huber, and Grosskreutz.
    - Alupis 4y ago
      This seems to be a complete re-writing of the facts revealed from eye witness and video accounts of the events of that evening. The jury also seems to disagree with this alternate narrative. It may be what some folks want to believe happened, but it is absolutely not the facts.
      - bb88 4y ago
        > The jury also seems to disagree with this alternate narrative. The prosecution couldn't bring to the stand the people he killed -- because they were dead.