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Do you really believe this? Worse, is this accurate? I cannot think of a single travel adventure I have taken, where my purpose was to collect a story to tell

Do you really believe this? Worse, is this accurate? I cannot think of a single travel adventure I have taken, where my purpose was to collect a story to tell other people. There's a deeper criticism to be made for "experiences" in general, like what I tend to do: travel and adventure for the experience of it, in-itself. The nature of the criticism is still murky to me; Nietzsche writes about it - though he was a bit of a hermit.

bawolff 4y ago
Just look at all the tourist shops that line historic places selling made-in-china plastic keychains and nick-knacks. Its hard to imagine such places would stay in business if tourists were really there for the sancity of the historic site.
- bigwavedave 4y ago
  > The "content producers" are not interested in the location itself, only what the location can give them, which is engagement numbers on their platform. The sanctity of the location itself is of little relevance. > So like 95% of tourists then? > Most tourists just want a story to make themselves feel "worldly" so they can brag and dont care about what they are visiting. > I think its totally reasonable to ban obnoxious behaviour at tourist sites, but i don't think normal tourists are any more moral than the tiktockers. > Just look at all the tourist shops that line historic places selling made-in-china plastic keychains and nick-knacks. Its hard to imagine such places would stay in business if tourists were really there for the sancity of the historic site. Oh, I don't know about that. I find it very difficult to believe it to be more likely that someone wants to spend a ton of time and money on a trip just so they can brag about their social and financial status with a $1 keychain rather than someone wanting a momento of a good experience. If you want to assert that 95% of people who go on vacation are only doing it to rub it in their friends' faces as opposed to doing it to make memories and have a good experience, you need to provide some source other than a gut instinct.
- Eupraxias 4y ago
  Fair enough, but bigwavedave here has a point. This isn't a simple binary. For my part, I never go to 'touristy' places, and have never bought a touristy gifty thing in all of my travels. Perhaps the gift shops cater to the uninterested family members who get dragged on tedious trips with their adventurous and enthusiastic family members!

bawolff 4y ago

Just look at all the tourist shops that line historic places selling made-in-china plastic keychains and nick-knacks. Its hard to imagine such places would stay in business if tourists were really there for the sancity of the historic site.

bigwavedave 4y ago
> The "content producers" are not interested in the location itself, only what the location can give them, which is engagement numbers on their platform. The sanctity of the location itself is of little relevance. > So like 95% of tourists then? > Most tourists just want a story to make themselves feel "worldly" so they can brag and dont care about what they are visiting. > I think its totally reasonable to ban obnoxious behaviour at tourist sites, but i don't think normal tourists are any more moral than the tiktockers. > Just look at all the tourist shops that line historic places selling made-in-china plastic keychains and nick-knacks. Its hard to imagine such places would stay in business if tourists were really there for the sancity of the historic site. Oh, I don't know about that. I find it very difficult to believe it to be more likely that someone wants to spend a ton of time and money on a trip just so they can brag about their social and financial status with a $1 keychain rather than someone wanting a momento of a good experience. If you want to assert that 95% of people who go on vacation are only doing it to rub it in their friends' faces as opposed to doing it to make memories and have a good experience, you need to provide some source other than a gut instinct.
Eupraxias 4y ago
Fair enough, but bigwavedave here has a point. This isn't a simple binary. For my part, I never go to 'touristy' places, and have never bought a touristy gifty thing in all of my travels. Perhaps the gift shops cater to the uninterested family members who get dragged on tedious trips with their adventurous and enthusiastic family members!