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My colleagues eat in twilight (eating area didn't have windows) to lower the energy consumption and limit CO2 release. Yandex is burning 12000 liters of diesel

My colleagues eat in twilight (eating area didn't have windows) to lower the energy consumption and limit CO2 release. Yandex is burning 12000 liters of diesel to power their data center for an hour.

nonrandomstring 4y ago
I have not driven a car in 30 years, always walk, bike or use public transport. No longer fly. I cook and eat local food, as much vegetarian as possible. I don't own a smart phone or use any Big Tech services. Limit my work to what is ethical and sustainable as much as possible. Married later and chose to have one child and a smaller home. For the mostpart this lifestyle makes me 1) Poorer 2) Ostracised There is no reward structure that favours doing the right thing. For me, these positive lifestyle choices have to be their own reward. Unfortunately that makes me see my society, which rewards conspicuous greed and selfishness as beneath contempt, and that's not a nice feeling.
- ku-man 4y ago
- revscat 4y ago
  I live my life similarly to yours. Then I read stories about how celebrities are using private jets to make 15 minute runs to the next town over. Or how the Saudi family continues to, you know, exist. This is why I am pessimistic about humanity’s future. We need to make systemic changes, but those who benefit from the system will never voluntarily agree to give up that power, even if it means doom for themselves and the rest of us.
  - tragictrash 4y ago
    This is prime "I'm 13 and this is deep" content. Great job!
- deleted 4y ago
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- micromacrofoot 4y ago
  Yep. I obsessively pick up trash in my neighborhood, replaced my lawn with local flora, advocate for better cycling infrastructure, compost, sort my recycling (don't throw away batteries), donate monthly to a tree-planting charity, keep the thermostat low, don't eat meat... ...and many people I know think I'm ridiculous. Honestly I feel like I'm doing the minimum. All these things do is inconvenience me. I'm not expecting an award (outside of my kids not experiencing global famine) but no one gives a shit. I fully expect not enough to be done until people are starving to death. And at that point I still don't expect anything to happen... the wealthy will live with some minor inconviniences and the poor will die.
- woweoe 4y ago
  In many cultures and especially if you live in a big city, the idea of being able to get around without a car is considered positive. Vegetarianism is massive in India (as are railways) and significant percentages in Europe too. The rest is the problem with how we generate our energy.
sofixa 4y ago
I highly doubt even 10 LED bulbs for an hour, on coal, make a dent in a human's CO2 "budget". It sounds like a stupid privation to feel like something is being done because you're making a sacrifice. That it's a useless sacrifice doesn't matter. There are so many more and better optimisation that can be made, on the individual, communal and societal level.
- limaoscarjuliet 4y ago
  I just installed a 50KWp FV setup in family owned hotel. It produces a 300kWh daily (summer in Europe). Still seems like nothing compared to what is consumed.

My colleagues eat in twilight (eating area didn't have windows) to lower the energy consumption and limit CO2 release. Yandex is burning 12000 liters of diesel to power their data center for an hour.

nonrandomstring 4y ago

I have not driven a car in 30 years, always walk, bike or use public transport. No longer fly. I cook and eat local food, as much vegetarian as possible. I don't own a smart phone or use any Big Tech services. Limit my work to what is ethical and sustainable as much as possible. Married later and chose to have one child and a smaller home. For the mostpart this lifestyle makes me 1) Poorer 2) Ostracised There is no reward structure that favours doing the right thing. For me, these positive lifestyle choices have to be their own reward. Unfortunately that makes me see my society, which rewards conspicuous greed and selfishness as beneath contempt, and that's not a nice feeling.

ku-man 4y ago
revscat 4y ago
I live my life similarly to yours. Then I read stories about how celebrities are using private jets to make 15 minute runs to the next town over. Or how the Saudi family continues to, you know, exist. This is why I am pessimistic about humanity’s future. We need to make systemic changes, but those who benefit from the system will never voluntarily agree to give up that power, even if it means doom for themselves and the rest of us.
- tragictrash 4y ago
  This is prime "I'm 13 and this is deep" content. Great job!
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micromacrofoot 4y ago
Yep. I obsessively pick up trash in my neighborhood, replaced my lawn with local flora, advocate for better cycling infrastructure, compost, sort my recycling (don't throw away batteries), donate monthly to a tree-planting charity, keep the thermostat low, don't eat meat... ...and many people I know think I'm ridiculous. Honestly I feel like I'm doing the minimum. All these things do is inconvenience me. I'm not expecting an award (outside of my kids not experiencing global famine) but no one gives a shit. I fully expect not enough to be done until people are starving to death. And at that point I still don't expect anything to happen... the wealthy will live with some minor inconviniences and the poor will die.
woweoe 4y ago
In many cultures and especially if you live in a big city, the idea of being able to get around without a car is considered positive. Vegetarianism is massive in India (as are railways) and significant percentages in Europe too. The rest is the problem with how we generate our energy.

sofixa 4y ago

I highly doubt even 10 LED bulbs for an hour, on coal, make a dent in a human's CO2 "budget". It sounds like a stupid privation to feel like something is being done because you're making a sacrifice. That it's a useless sacrifice doesn't matter. There are so many more and better optimisation that can be made, on the individual, communal and societal level.

limaoscarjuliet 4y ago
I just installed a 50KWp FV setup in family owned hotel. It produces a 300kWh daily (summer in Europe). Still seems like nothing compared to what is consumed.