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> People want their bubbles. We’re all here on HN for that exact purpose. 100% disagree. I'm here to find ideas I disagree with and tell people how they're wro
by beebmam 4y ago
> People want their bubbles. We’re all here on HN for that exact purpose.
100% disagree. I'm here to find ideas I disagree with and tell people how they're wrong. I'm not looking for an agreeable experience here. I'm also here to learn about new tech.
- mulmen 4y agoBubbles don't need to be harmful. HN is a bubble. There are ideas that are not allowed here. There are other ideas that are explicitly promoted. This is the value proposition of HN. You are free to go elsewhere to get other perspectives or interactions. This is as it should be.
- tmaly 4y agoI try to shake that up from time to time. It is nice to see the other side of the discussion. Groupthink is not something to strive for.
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- mulmen 4y agoI’m not striving for groupthink. I’m seeking out a trusted (collective) voice.
- themitigating 4y agoIt depends on what the bubble is about. If it's for a specific anime who cares but politics is a bubble whose influence exits the bubble
- mulmen 4y agoHonestly I have no interest in discussing politics. It’s the social media of conversation. I prefer to talk to people about what interests them. Sometimes it is interesting. Sometimes it isn’t. Sometimes I agree with them. Sometimes I don’t. With most people all four are true. I form my own opinions from there. They change frequently. I vote based on my best current mental model.
- walterbell 4y ago> There are ideas that are not allowed here. It would be more accurate to say that some ideas require more work here. The reasons why are open to debate.
- spoonjim 4y agoThere are definitely ideas that are not allowed here.
- superturkey650 4y agoI can't think of any non-rulebreaking comments that would get you banned just for expressing a distasteful idea. Can you give some examples?
- mulmen 4y agoThe ideas that break the rules.
- superturkey650 4y agoThere aren't any ideas that break the rules though. Just structure, tone, and context of comments/posts.
- zmgsabst 4y agoI don’t think that’s true. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32432564 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32432564
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- coldtea 4y agoTrying expressing certain looked down upon ideas politely and with a good structure, gentle tone, and within context, and see how far you go...
- somewhereoutth 4y agoSome ideas are objectively sick regardless of the forum.
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- shevis 4y agoI 100% disagree with your idea that you, or anyone for that matter, is just here to disagree with other people’s ideas. Nobody disagrees with stuff just for the sake of disagreement. Who would do such a thing? Don’t bother answering that question though because you’d be wrong.
- dmarlow 4y agoYou're not wrong. But, you're not right either.
- tibanne 4y agoNeither of you aren't not wrong.
- tomrod 4y agoEveryone is wrong, we live in a wonderful world where everyone can be wrong.
- coldtea 4y agoThey can't both be not wrong.
- n4bz0r 4y agoI disagree, but I can't agree either. Do we have a deal?
- coldtea 4y agoI was going more for getting the classic response, from the old story: Two men disagree and they bring a local wise man to listen to them. He listens to the first guy making his case, and tells him: - You're right. The other guy protests: Hey, here my side too. So the wise man listens to his side of the story too, and then tells him: - You're right. A bystandander witnessing this scene then calls out to the wise man: - They can't both be right! And the wise man says: - You're right, too!
- mortenlwk 4y agoNice way to describe your taste in bubbles.
- colinmhayes 4y agoThat may be true, but I doubt you’re actually too interested in people with completely different interests. Just like utilitarians and deontologists might be interested in finding and talking with each other but not someone who is wholly uninterested in ethics as a simple example.
- id 4y agoMaybe, but you want to have your disagreements with the people that typically frequent HN about topics that are typically discussed on HN.
- vorpalhex 4y agoA bubble can be less about topics and more about how we communicate - if I ask about sources on HN I'll get links and pdfs in return. If I do that on reddit, I'll get insults. HN has broad tolerance for a lot of ideas - and a lot of subgroups exist here that don't exist on other platforms. No matter what you believe, someone on HN holds a counter view and can probably give you a good debate about it.
- a9h74j 4y agoThere might be some "Three or so core values are enough" pattern being played out in relatively good success here. E.g. respond to a favorable or valliant interpretation of a post, bring in new data and information and references, leave the place better than you found it. Then maybe a few emergent rules of etiquette.
- guelo 4y agoYou want an audience for your disagreements and maybe to cause a rise in people (trolling). But that's not fun for the audience which is why a lot of communities become insular bubbles to keep the annoyers away.
- hammyhavoc 4y agoIs HN the digital equivalent of going to a bar looking for a fight?
- labster 4y agoNo, it’s not. And you better be shut up about it if you know what’s good for you, pardner.
- hammyhavoc 4y agoThis honestly made my day. LOL
- _Algernon_ 4y agoRelevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/386/ https://xkcd.com/386/