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NetBSD improves support for the Commodore Amiga

99 points by erickhill 4y ago

opless 4y ago
FYI "Due to the MMU requirement, it will not run on A500, A600, A1000, A1200, A2000, A4000/EC030, CDTV or CD32 out of the box. You must install a CPU board on them to run NetBSD."
- rjsw 4y ago
  Probably easier to find an old Macintosh with a MMU if you want to try out NetBSD on something of that vintage.
  - opless 4y ago
    I used to have an LC that I used to run Debian on, sadly it crashed regularly :(
    - johnklos 4y ago
      NetBSD runs on Mac LCs. http://elsie.zia.io/ http://elsie.zia.io/
  - zdw 4y ago
    There are definitely more Macs out there than Amigas. On either 68k platform swapping out a full 68030/040 instead of the EC versions is quite easy, and these chips are still fairly available on the used market.
    - opless 4y ago
      In the UK the Amiga was huge - a much larger market than the 68K Macs. Possibly Germany too. The USA (as far as I understand it) had lots of 68K Macs in their schools, where as the UK had more Acorn Equipment (which gradually moved to x86 through Research Machines)
      - vidarh 4y ago
        Yeah, it's very market specific. I grew up in Norway, and until the mid-90's I had seen a grand total of one Mac in person (the first Apple machine I'd seen at all) - the mostly ignored display unit at my local computer store. Nobody I knew had Macs - those upgrading from 8-bit home computers mostly went Amiga, Atari ST or PC's.
        2000UltraDeluxe 4y ago
        Ditto in Finland. Most young people with computers in the early 90's had Ataris and Amigas. I think I saw one single Mac at a friend's house once. Apart from that I didn't see any Macs until the Power Macs started getting popular.
    - flohofwoe 4y ago
      > There are definitely more Macs out there than Amigas. Maybe in the US, but definitely not in Europe - unless you also count modern Macs ;)
    - sys_64738 4y ago
      The Amiga ruled Britain until the 90s but radically different in the USA. My old boss was an American Amiga owner and he says he sold up around 1989 for the PC.
    - classichasclass 4y ago
      Runs great on my IIci. Been doing so since 2001. Also use it on a Quadra 605 with a full '040. The other NetBSD machines around here are a Cobalt RaQ (MIPS), a Jornada 690 (SH3) and a Mac mini G4. Now that there's an OpenBSD port to POWER9, though, NetBSD has no excuse.
- justapassenger 4y ago
  Basically anyone who still runs Amiga is using accelerator cards, majority of them with MMUs.
danhab99 4y ago
>(in turn belonging to the Unix family), stepbrother of macOS and first cousin of Linux To the common people this means very little To those who understands version control this means a lot more.
kps 4y ago
There's got to be a Video Toaster joke around here somewhere, but I can't find it.
- dylan604 4y ago
  Kiki Wipes!!!
rjsw 4y ago
The original title is better than the one here, the Amiga has been supported for a long time, recent changes just fixed some things that had bitrotted or been deleted from upstream X11.
vhodges 4y ago
My first unix experience. I spent a weekend backing up my A4000 (at work) to to a writable cd (at $30 a pop no less) and installed NetBSD on it, played with it for a few hours and then restored AmigaOS (so I could work on Monday). Might have been sometime in the fall of '93 or so.
frellus 4y ago
I'm a huge *BSD fan, and I know one of the amazing things about NetBSD is that it's been ported to everything.. but an OS which is ported everywhere but runs no where in production feels like a really quirky project to me. Likewise, OpenBSD, FreeBSD will have some adoption (vs Linux, Windows) on the server front, but I worry they won't win the hearts and minds of developers unless there is a solid and modern laptop solution -- this obviously requires developers who are able to get things working. Before everyone jumps in and says they're running *BSD on their laptop, I'm talking about a modern laptop, and being able to develop on it. I recently tried to install FreeBSD onto a modern laptop (Dell XPS) and it totally failed in every way possible. No power/sleep control, fans blasting, CPU burning through my desktop, and I hadn't even gotten to the wifi and video support to get X working. On Reddit I was essentially told it wasn't worth the pain.
- anthk 4y ago
  Each BSD has nothing to do which each other.
- rjsw 4y ago
  I'm a NetBSD developer but I don't have a recent x86 laptop, it is only in the last year that packages like Firefox and LibreOffice have got too big to run on my old laptop and I have started to think about buying a newer one, everything works fine on the old one. People fix the problems that they see, but if developers don't have a need to buy new stuff for themselves then newer systems won't get support.
  - anthk 4y ago
    Lariza (webkit2gtk4 browser, head to https://uninformativ.de https://uninformativ.de or gopher://uninformativ.de from Lynx ) runs fast enough under OpenBSD i386 base Intel Atom n270 netbook with 1GB of RAM and an Intel 945 iGPU with GL 1.4. Take that as a reference.
  - xvilka 4y ago
    I recently thought it would be awesome to have DragonFly BSD working on Raspberry Pi (or any other modern ARMv8 machine) but it's not implemented yet - there is a small code bounty[1] but I would be happy to extend it for a couple $k. If you would be willing to help or know someone - feel free to contact me or leave a comment. [1] https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/developer/Code_Bounties/#index9h2 https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/developer/Code_Bounties/#i...
Cyberdog 4y ago
> Enough fans in fact, for that a 2022 operating system bothered to add support for graphical sessions (via an X11 server)* on said hardware*. > And it is that the objective that differentiates this system from other BSDs such as FreeBSD or OpenBSD is summed up, precisely, by its slogan “Of course it runs NetBSD” (Of course running NetBSD)in reference to the vast catalog of hardware architectures that it supports, from the (today) enormous VAX microcomputers (launched on the market in the 1970s) to PDAs of all kinds, passing through PCs, Raspberry Pis or Sega Dreamcast video consoles. This article seems like it was auto-translated from another language.
- jkingsman 4y ago
  I've had articles that I was 100% certain of the original source for, and yeah it either seems like a hatchet job of a machine translation and back, or it's heavily thesaurized. I'd have to guess it's to drive clicks/traffic for advertising money or malware purposes without being so blatant that there's nowhere to hide, legally. Just my uninformed guess.
  - dylan604 4y ago
    Sounds like a GPT-3 article too
- mnd999 4y ago
  Wow, they have X11 working on ECS / AGA i.e. the standard Amiga graphics which were state of the art at the time but unconventional by modern standards. That’s pretty awesome, I was expecting it to need an external graphics card. Sadly my A1200 doesn’t have an MMU so it would be upgrade time if I want to try it.
xvilka 4y ago
It's the only modern OS that can still be also installed on VAX. You can try it yourself with OpenSIMH[1][2][3]. I struggled to successfully setup network though - for some reason it wasn't working as expected. [1] https://github.com/open-simh/simh/ https://github.com/open-simh/simh/ [2] https://pbraun.nethence.com/obsolete/software/simh.html https://pbraun.nethence.com/obsolete/software/simh.html [3] https://www.netbsd.org/ports/vax/emulator-howto.html https://www.netbsd.org/ports/vax/emulator-howto.html
- anthk 4y ago
  Simh needs to be run as root or with suid, as it requires to open the interface as root. Either that, or try to setup tun/tap or a virtual device under OpenBSD. This way you won't require root, but virt devices under Linux are scary to set up and dead simple under OpenBSD.
- kaashif 4y ago
  Does NetBSD still really run on real VAXen? As I recall, there was a time when NetBSD current was broken on VAX, the cross compilation process had gone wrong and no-one noticed. Can't find a source, but I can find an email mentioning that issue: https://www.mail-archive.com/tech-kern@netbsd.org/msg12018.html https://www.mail-archive.com/tech-kern@netbsd.org/msg12018.h.... Are there people still running it, or is this just an emulator and cross-compilation thing? I can't find any proof either way. I know OpenBSD has a policy of no cross compilation and only real machines, but they dropped support for VAX years ago.
LeoPanthera 4y ago
This article (which I'm convinced was "written" by GPT) is actively misleading, since NetBSD isn't supported on any of the legacy hardware described and even pictured in the article. The change isn't even that huge, since wsfb was already supported on most common Amiga graphics cards, including CyberVision, Picasso, Piccolo, Spectrum, Domino, Merlin and oMnibus. Here are the release notes for 9.3: https://www.netbsd.org/releases/formal-9/NetBSD-9.3.html https://www.netbsd.org/releases/formal-9/NetBSD-9.3.html
- rjsw 4y ago
  I don't think it is GPT generated, seems similar to the kind of stuff on Phoronix that has been editorialized from mailing list posts, which of the legacy hardware mentioned do you feel is incorrect?
  - LeoPanthera 4y ago
    It shows an Amiga 500, and specifies "released in 1985".
- johnklos 4y ago
  Perhaps it was poorly translated. It's hard to say. But be aware that there are many, many dozens of accelerators for the Amiga 500, so it is, in fact, easy to have NetBSD running on such hardware.
marttt 4y ago
A n00b-level hardware question. I have an old Sony PRS-T1 e-reader with a Freescale i.MX508 SoC (32-bit Cortex-A8, ARMv7-A architecture). If I am not mistaken, this processor might be supported by NetBSD since 7.0? There is a port for the Kobo reader, which has a similar one [0, 1]. Has anybody here maybe used the Kobo-NetBSD port? How much of an effort would it be to get it booting on the Sony T1? Or would it be a definite way to brick the device for good. I was thinking it would be awesome to have the PRS-T1 as a NetBSD-based "single textfile viewer". No wireless or other goodies, no touchscreen, just a dumb pager, scrolling up and down on a plain text document using the device's physical buttons. For starters, it could, indeed, display just one document, which would be loaded into the device via USB. In addition to USB access, one would have to map the T1's physical buttons to scrolling commands. Later on, multi-file support could be added (woah!), via some sort of simple terminal-based menu, again navigable with the hardware buttons. The T1 has 5 buttons + power on/off + reset. Usually, the mods for various e-readers seem to focus on hacking the original, e.g. Android-based OS into something "more complete", that is, adding features. I would rather go the opposite direction -- turn the T1 into an ultra-barebones device. For, as an avid ereader user, I've come to realize that I would actually survive quite happily with just text files. PDFs are somewhat an issue, but ebooks can be converted to plain text incredibly nicely with a text-only web browser. Unzip the epub, navigate to HTML files, convert and merge them into a single .txt via 'links -dump'. For me, images or drawings in ebooks can mostly be skipped without much of an issue. So yeah, maybe a toaster-running OS would be a good fit for such a project? Has there been any other porting efforts, with different ereaders -- and if not, then what are the main obstacles? (I am definitely not competent, but "ARM is messy", even for BSD wizards?) I couldn't find much examples. NetBSD guys seem to prefer toasters, I guess :). 0: https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-bugs/2013/08/29/msg034018.html https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-bugs/2013/08/29/msg0340... 1: https://wiki.netbsd.org/users/jun/kobo/ https://wiki.netbsd.org/users/jun/kobo/
- rjsw 4y ago
  Just from looking at what needed to be done to get the Pine64 PineNote to work with Linux, eInk displays need special drivers and each one is different. There isn't an eInk driver of any kind in NetBSD.
astrange 4y ago
What do you actually do with NetBSD once it's been installed on everything on earth? It seems like one of those small computers that's supposedly for education but is actually only used for dads to install NES emulators on.
- bch 4y ago
  It’s a well-engineered general purpose operating system. I used it as a development platform and reference box for portability. I’ll drive my projects w BSD Make[0] and nvi[1] in tmux[2] in dwm/st[3] in X.org as well as I imagine Linux does. I’ll occasionally stream radio with it while I’m working, and collaborate in development with git/hg/fossil. In this sense, I may not even be missing anything versus what another system could provide. I can ssh from here to there, I happen to use this box as a VPN/router, dhcp server and recursive DNS resolver, so it also supports other (Windows, Apple) devices in the house. A solid, no-nonsense breath of fresh air. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_(software) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvi [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tmux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tmux [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suckless.org https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suckless.org
- bpye 4y ago
  Still no RISC-V support so we’ve got more platforms yet.
- deleted 4y ago
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- the_only_law 4y ago
  > What do you actually do with NetBSD once it's been installed on everything on earth? Actually use my retro computers instead of having them sit around forever with an empty disk.
- classichasclass 4y ago
  My NetBSD Mac mini G4 is a router, running tincd primarily. My NetBSD IIci handles internal DHCP, RARP, TFTP, DNS, power failure alert propagation, and classic EtherTalk and AppleShare for the oldest Mac clients. My NetBSD RaQ is a big NFS server. My NetBSD Jornada 690 is just for fun. :)

99 points by erickhill 4y ago

FYI "Due to the MMU requirement, it will not run on A500, A600, A1000, A1200, A2000, A4000/EC030, CDTV or CD32 out of the box. You must install a CPU board on them to run NetBSD."

rjsw 4y ago
Probably easier to find an old Macintosh with a MMU if you want to try out NetBSD on something of that vintage.
- opless 4y ago
  I used to have an LC that I used to run Debian on, sadly it crashed regularly :(
  - johnklos 4y ago
    NetBSD runs on Mac LCs. http://elsie.zia.io/ http://elsie.zia.io/
- zdw 4y ago
  There are definitely more Macs out there than Amigas. On either 68k platform swapping out a full 68030/040 instead of the EC versions is quite easy, and these chips are still fairly available on the used market.
  - opless 4y ago
    In the UK the Amiga was huge - a much larger market than the 68K Macs. Possibly Germany too. The USA (as far as I understand it) had lots of 68K Macs in their schools, where as the UK had more Acorn Equipment (which gradually moved to x86 through Research Machines)
    - vidarh 4y ago
      Yeah, it's very market specific. I grew up in Norway, and until the mid-90's I had seen a grand total of one Mac in person (the first Apple machine I'd seen at all) - the mostly ignored display unit at my local computer store. Nobody I knew had Macs - those upgrading from 8-bit home computers mostly went Amiga, Atari ST or PC's.
      - 2000UltraDeluxe 4y ago
        Ditto in Finland. Most young people with computers in the early 90's had Ataris and Amigas. I think I saw one single Mac at a friend's house once. Apart from that I didn't see any Macs until the Power Macs started getting popular.
  - flohofwoe 4y ago
    > There are definitely more Macs out there than Amigas. Maybe in the US, but definitely not in Europe - unless you also count modern Macs ;)
  - sys_64738 4y ago
    The Amiga ruled Britain until the 90s but radically different in the USA. My old boss was an American Amiga owner and he says he sold up around 1989 for the PC.
  - classichasclass 4y ago
    Runs great on my IIci. Been doing so since 2001. Also use it on a Quadra 605 with a full '040. The other NetBSD machines around here are a Cobalt RaQ (MIPS), a Jornada 690 (SH3) and a Mac mini G4. Now that there's an OpenBSD port to POWER9, though, NetBSD has no excuse.
justapassenger 4y ago
Basically anyone who still runs Amiga is using accelerator cards, majority of them with MMUs.

danhab99 4y ago

>(in turn belonging to the Unix family), stepbrother of macOS and first cousin of Linux To the common people this means very little To those who understands version control this means a lot more.

kps 4y ago

There's got to be a Video Toaster joke around here somewhere, but I can't find it.

dylan604 4y ago
Kiki Wipes!!!

rjsw 4y ago

The original title is better than the one here, the Amiga has been supported for a long time, recent changes just fixed some things that had bitrotted or been deleted from upstream X11.

vhodges 4y ago

My first unix experience. I spent a weekend backing up my A4000 (at work) to to a writable cd (at $30 a pop no less) and installed NetBSD on it, played with it for a few hours and then restored AmigaOS (so I could work on Monday). Might have been sometime in the fall of '93 or so.

frellus 4y ago

I'm a huge *BSD fan, and I know one of the amazing things about NetBSD is that it's been ported to everything.. but an OS which is ported everywhere but runs no where in production feels like a really quirky project to me. Likewise, OpenBSD, FreeBSD will have some adoption (vs Linux, Windows) on the server front, but I worry they won't win the hearts and minds of developers unless there is a solid and modern laptop solution -- this obviously requires developers who are able to get things working. Before everyone jumps in and says they're running *BSD on their laptop, I'm talking about a modern laptop, and being able to develop on it. I recently tried to install FreeBSD onto a modern laptop (Dell XPS) and it totally failed in every way possible. No power/sleep control, fans blasting, CPU burning through my desktop, and I hadn't even gotten to the wifi and video support to get X working. On Reddit I was essentially told it wasn't worth the pain.

anthk 4y ago
Each BSD has nothing to do which each other.
rjsw 4y ago
I'm a NetBSD developer but I don't have a recent x86 laptop, it is only in the last year that packages like Firefox and LibreOffice have got too big to run on my old laptop and I have started to think about buying a newer one, everything works fine on the old one. People fix the problems that they see, but if developers don't have a need to buy new stuff for themselves then newer systems won't get support.
- anthk 4y ago
  Lariza (webkit2gtk4 browser, head to https://uninformativ.de https://uninformativ.de or gopher://uninformativ.de from Lynx ) runs fast enough under OpenBSD i386 base Intel Atom n270 netbook with 1GB of RAM and an Intel 945 iGPU with GL 1.4. Take that as a reference.
- xvilka 4y ago
  I recently thought it would be awesome to have DragonFly BSD working on Raspberry Pi (or any other modern ARMv8 machine) but it's not implemented yet - there is a small code bounty[1] but I would be happy to extend it for a couple $k. If you would be willing to help or know someone - feel free to contact me or leave a comment. [1] https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/developer/Code_Bounties/#index9h2 https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/developer/Code_Bounties/#i...

Cyberdog 4y ago

> Enough fans in fact, for that a 2022 operating system bothered to add support for graphical sessions (via an X11 server)* on said hardware*. > And it is that the objective that differentiates this system from other BSDs such as FreeBSD or OpenBSD is summed up, precisely, by its slogan “Of course it runs NetBSD” (Of course running NetBSD)in reference to the vast catalog of hardware architectures that it supports, from the (today) enormous VAX microcomputers (launched on the market in the 1970s) to PDAs of all kinds, passing through PCs, Raspberry Pis or Sega Dreamcast video consoles. This article seems like it was auto-translated from another language.

jkingsman 4y ago
I've had articles that I was 100% certain of the original source for, and yeah it either seems like a hatchet job of a machine translation and back, or it's heavily thesaurized. I'd have to guess it's to drive clicks/traffic for advertising money or malware purposes without being so blatant that there's nowhere to hide, legally. Just my uninformed guess.
- dylan604 4y ago
  Sounds like a GPT-3 article too
mnd999 4y ago
Wow, they have X11 working on ECS / AGA i.e. the standard Amiga graphics which were state of the art at the time but unconventional by modern standards. That’s pretty awesome, I was expecting it to need an external graphics card. Sadly my A1200 doesn’t have an MMU so it would be upgrade time if I want to try it.

xvilka 4y ago

It's the only modern OS that can still be also installed on VAX. You can try it yourself with OpenSIMH[1][2][3]. I struggled to successfully setup network though - for some reason it wasn't working as expected. [1] https://github.com/open-simh/simh/ https://github.com/open-simh/simh/ [2] https://pbraun.nethence.com/obsolete/software/simh.html https://pbraun.nethence.com/obsolete/software/simh.html [3] https://www.netbsd.org/ports/vax/emulator-howto.html https://www.netbsd.org/ports/vax/emulator-howto.html

anthk 4y ago
Simh needs to be run as root or with suid, as it requires to open the interface as root. Either that, or try to setup tun/tap or a virtual device under OpenBSD. This way you won't require root, but virt devices under Linux are scary to set up and dead simple under OpenBSD.
kaashif 4y ago
Does NetBSD still really run on real VAXen? As I recall, there was a time when NetBSD current was broken on VAX, the cross compilation process had gone wrong and no-one noticed. Can't find a source, but I can find an email mentioning that issue: https://www.mail-archive.com/tech-kern@netbsd.org/msg12018.html https://www.mail-archive.com/tech-kern@netbsd.org/msg12018.h.... Are there people still running it, or is this just an emulator and cross-compilation thing? I can't find any proof either way. I know OpenBSD has a policy of no cross compilation and only real machines, but they dropped support for VAX years ago.

LeoPanthera 4y ago

This article (which I'm convinced was "written" by GPT) is actively misleading, since NetBSD isn't supported on any of the legacy hardware described and even pictured in the article. The change isn't even that huge, since wsfb was already supported on most common Amiga graphics cards, including CyberVision, Picasso, Piccolo, Spectrum, Domino, Merlin and oMnibus. Here are the release notes for 9.3: https://www.netbsd.org/releases/formal-9/NetBSD-9.3.html https://www.netbsd.org/releases/formal-9/NetBSD-9.3.html

rjsw 4y ago
I don't think it is GPT generated, seems similar to the kind of stuff on Phoronix that has been editorialized from mailing list posts, which of the legacy hardware mentioned do you feel is incorrect?
- LeoPanthera 4y ago
  It shows an Amiga 500, and specifies "released in 1985".
johnklos 4y ago
Perhaps it was poorly translated. It's hard to say. But be aware that there are many, many dozens of accelerators for the Amiga 500, so it is, in fact, easy to have NetBSD running on such hardware.

marttt 4y ago

A n00b-level hardware question. I have an old Sony PRS-T1 e-reader with a Freescale i.MX508 SoC (32-bit Cortex-A8, ARMv7-A architecture). If I am not mistaken, this processor might be supported by NetBSD since 7.0? There is a port for the Kobo reader, which has a similar one [0, 1]. Has anybody here maybe used the Kobo-NetBSD port? How much of an effort would it be to get it booting on the Sony T1? Or would it be a definite way to brick the device for good. I was thinking it would be awesome to have the PRS-T1 as a NetBSD-based "single textfile viewer". No wireless or other goodies, no touchscreen, just a dumb pager, scrolling up and down on a plain text document using the device's physical buttons. For starters, it could, indeed, display just one document, which would be loaded into the device via USB. In addition to USB access, one would have to map the T1's physical buttons to scrolling commands. Later on, multi-file support could be added (woah!), via some sort of simple terminal-based menu, again navigable with the hardware buttons. The T1 has 5 buttons + power on/off + reset. Usually, the mods for various e-readers seem to focus on hacking the original, e.g. Android-based OS into something "more complete", that is, adding features. I would rather go the opposite direction -- turn the T1 into an ultra-barebones device. For, as an avid ereader user, I've come to realize that I would actually survive quite happily with just text files. PDFs are somewhat an issue, but ebooks can be converted to plain text incredibly nicely with a text-only web browser. Unzip the epub, navigate to HTML files, convert and merge them into a single .txt via 'links -dump'. For me, images or drawings in ebooks can mostly be skipped without much of an issue. So yeah, maybe a toaster-running OS would be a good fit for such a project? Has there been any other porting efforts, with different ereaders -- and if not, then what are the main obstacles? (I am definitely not competent, but "ARM is messy", even for BSD wizards?) I couldn't find much examples. NetBSD guys seem to prefer toasters, I guess :). 0: https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-bugs/2013/08/29/msg034018.html https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-bugs/2013/08/29/msg0340... 1: https://wiki.netbsd.org/users/jun/kobo/ https://wiki.netbsd.org/users/jun/kobo/

rjsw 4y ago
Just from looking at what needed to be done to get the Pine64 PineNote to work with Linux, eInk displays need special drivers and each one is different. There isn't an eInk driver of any kind in NetBSD.

astrange 4y ago

What do you actually do with NetBSD once it's been installed on everything on earth? It seems like one of those small computers that's supposedly for education but is actually only used for dads to install NES emulators on.

bch 4y ago
It’s a well-engineered general purpose operating system. I used it as a development platform and reference box for portability. I’ll drive my projects w BSD Make[0] and nvi[1] in tmux[2] in dwm/st[3] in X.org as well as I imagine Linux does. I’ll occasionally stream radio with it while I’m working, and collaborate in development with git/hg/fossil. In this sense, I may not even be missing anything versus what another system could provide. I can ssh from here to there, I happen to use this box as a VPN/router, dhcp server and recursive DNS resolver, so it also supports other (Windows, Apple) devices in the house. A solid, no-nonsense breath of fresh air. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_(software) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvi [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tmux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tmux [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suckless.org https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suckless.org
bpye 4y ago
Still no RISC-V support so we’ve got more platforms yet.
deleted 4y ago
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the_only_law 4y ago
> What do you actually do with NetBSD once it's been installed on everything on earth? Actually use my retro computers instead of having them sit around forever with an empty disk.
classichasclass 4y ago
My NetBSD Mac mini G4 is a router, running tincd primarily. My NetBSD IIci handles internal DHCP, RARP, TFTP, DNS, power failure alert propagation, and classic EtherTalk and AppleShare for the oldest Mac clients. My NetBSD RaQ is a big NFS server. My NetBSD Jornada 690 is just for fun. :)