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You can pretty easily install whatever you want on whatever cloud provider you want if you have an actual VM you access. If that's outside of your capability, y

You can pretty easily install whatever you want on whatever cloud provider you want if you have an actual VM you access. If that's outside of your capability, you shouldn't be using a VM. That said, there are providers that will sell you paid for OSes for a monthly extra fee. They're just not US technology giants :)

avhception 4y ago
Well, I didn't say I can't roll my own images. I said it's too much overhead. You loose a lot of the integration that the cloud provider has already baked into their images, you have to deal with RedHats subscription manager and sales department etc. What I want is an easy "20$/month CentOS, 24$/month RedHat" offer where all of that is taken care of.
- signal11 4y ago
  Some providers, eg, GCP, have this already. Red Hat Enterprise Linux[1] is available, as is Ubuntu Pro[2] and Rocky Linux[3]. Red Hat and DO need to speak to each other. [1] https://www.redhat.com/en/partners/google https://www.redhat.com/en/partners/google [2] https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/compute/ubuntu-pro-available-on-google-cloud https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/compute/ubuntu-pro-av... [3] https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/application-modernization/introducing-rocky-linux-optimized-for-google-cloud https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/application-moderniza...
- em-bee 4y ago
  this 100% when we are already paying for hosting, paying a bit more for something like redhat is a no-brainer.
tryauuum 4y ago
What you say about installing OS as long as you have full access is true. But I wonder, could digital ocean make it easier? Does redhat provide VM images in which you only have to enter license key, or is the process more complicated (e.g. you have to get these images from a paywalled url?)
netheril96 4y ago
If he were to do everything himself (regardless whether or not he can do them),then there is no point of choosing Redhat over other Linux distros. The raison d'etre of RedHat is to take away Linux problems from users' concern.
mr_gibbins 4y ago
I can image my own VM, but I don't necessarily want to image my own VM, especially when I'm in something of a rush or I just want something vanilla. This is the big appeal of e.g. AWS Linux. If I want a VM I can get one in about three clicks and 60 seconds. Sure, it won't be as custom-configured as I want it, but it's an over-generalisation to say that if you can't image a VM you shouldn't use one. Plenty of dev folk out there expert in Ruby/Java/whatever that wouldn't know where to start. I can't do even basic mechanics, does that mean I shouldn't be allowed to drive?
- XorNot 4y ago
  The AWS model is great because they just roll the license costs into the VM cost. It makes me budgeting things easier, and more importantly means when I'm on AWS I don't have to handle the BS which is software license management.

avhception 4y ago

Well, I didn't say I can't roll my own images. I said it's too much overhead. You loose a lot of the integration that the cloud provider has already baked into their images, you have to deal with RedHats subscription manager and sales department etc. What I want is an easy "20$/month CentOS, 24$/month RedHat" offer where all of that is taken care of.

signal11 4y ago
Some providers, eg, GCP, have this already. Red Hat Enterprise Linux[1] is available, as is Ubuntu Pro[2] and Rocky Linux[3]. Red Hat and DO need to speak to each other. [1] https://www.redhat.com/en/partners/google https://www.redhat.com/en/partners/google [2] https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/compute/ubuntu-pro-available-on-google-cloud https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/compute/ubuntu-pro-av... [3] https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/application-modernization/introducing-rocky-linux-optimized-for-google-cloud https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/application-moderniza...
em-bee 4y ago
this 100% when we are already paying for hosting, paying a bit more for something like redhat is a no-brainer.

tryauuum 4y ago

What you say about installing OS as long as you have full access is true. But I wonder, could digital ocean make it easier? Does redhat provide VM images in which you only have to enter license key, or is the process more complicated (e.g. you have to get these images from a paywalled url?)

netheril96 4y ago

If he were to do everything himself (regardless whether or not he can do them),then there is no point of choosing Redhat over other Linux distros. The raison d'etre of RedHat is to take away Linux problems from users' concern.

mr_gibbins 4y ago

I can image my own VM, but I don't necessarily want to image my own VM, especially when I'm in something of a rush or I just want something vanilla. This is the big appeal of e.g. AWS Linux. If I want a VM I can get one in about three clicks and 60 seconds. Sure, it won't be as custom-configured as I want it, but it's an over-generalisation to say that if you can't image a VM you shouldn't use one. Plenty of dev folk out there expert in Ruby/Java/whatever that wouldn't know where to start. I can't do even basic mechanics, does that mean I shouldn't be allowed to drive?

XorNot 4y ago
The AWS model is great because they just roll the license costs into the VM cost. It makes me budgeting things easier, and more importantly means when I'm on AWS I don't have to handle the BS which is software license management.