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De-growth policies have absolutely no chance in our day and age. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

by juve1996 4y ago

asabjorn 4y ago
You’ve already lived through artificial gas shortages since February 2021 after fracking and gas pipelines were shut down, so that’s demonstrably incorrect. Less easy to spot you’ve seen policy of not building new refineries and oil fields. Likewise you can see degrowth in food supply pushed by governments in Sri Lanka, Netherlands, Belgium and Germany etc. in the US the “inflation reduction bill” spends 20 billion to put farmland out of use and put regulation in place to make the remainder farmers farming harder like in Sri Lanka.
- juve1996 4y ago
  The february 2021 had causes that are well researched. It's not indicative of anything. > Less easy to spot you’ve seen policy of not building new refineries and oil fields. The US has barely built refineries over the last 3 decades. This is not a new phenomenon. > Likewise you can see degrowth in food supply pushed by governments in Sri Lanka, Netherlands, Belgium and Germany etc. in the US the “inflation reduction bill” spends 20 billion to put farmland out of use and put regulation in place to make the remainder farmers farming harder like in Sri Lanka. Can you point this out in the bill so I can read it?
  - asabjorn 4y ago
    Let me look for a good source for the inflation reduction bill. In the meantime here you can see the catastrophic effect of Sri Lankan style ESG policies in the Netherlands, as projected by their finance ministry. Netherlands is the 5th largest food exporter in the world. https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/07/ministry-figures-suggest-29000-farms-could-be-hit-by-nitrogen-plans/ https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/07/ministry-figures-sugge...
api 4y ago
The only de-growth policy that matters anyway is having less children, and people do that naturally as they become more affluent.

De-growth policies have absolutely no chance in our day and age. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

You’ve already lived through artificial gas shortages since February 2021 after fracking and gas pipelines were shut down, so that’s demonstrably incorrect. Less easy to spot you’ve seen policy of not building new refineries and oil fields. Likewise you can see degrowth in food supply pushed by governments in Sri Lanka, Netherlands, Belgium and Germany etc. in the US the “inflation reduction bill” spends 20 billion to put farmland out of use and put regulation in place to make the remainder farmers farming harder like in Sri Lanka.

juve1996 4y ago
The february 2021 had causes that are well researched. It's not indicative of anything. > Less easy to spot you’ve seen policy of not building new refineries and oil fields. The US has barely built refineries over the last 3 decades. This is not a new phenomenon. > Likewise you can see degrowth in food supply pushed by governments in Sri Lanka, Netherlands, Belgium and Germany etc. in the US the “inflation reduction bill” spends 20 billion to put farmland out of use and put regulation in place to make the remainder farmers farming harder like in Sri Lanka. Can you point this out in the bill so I can read it?
- asabjorn 4y ago
  Let me look for a good source for the inflation reduction bill. In the meantime here you can see the catastrophic effect of Sri Lankan style ESG policies in the Netherlands, as projected by their finance ministry. Netherlands is the 5th largest food exporter in the world. https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/07/ministry-figures-suggest-29000-farms-could-be-hit-by-nitrogen-plans/ https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/07/ministry-figures-sugge...

api 4y ago

The only de-growth policy that matters anyway is having less children, and people do that naturally as they become more affluent.