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> I'm really sorry about that, but how do you want people to act? I want people to think more critically about cause and effect rather than spend all their eff

by Aunche 4y ago

> I'm really sorry about that, but how do you want people to act? I want people to think more critically about cause and effect rather than spend all their effort on "raising awareness", which encompasses several behaviors, but the worst of which is spreading exaggerated anger. > told their generation controlled every vote target, Boomers control the vote because they're the ones that bother to show up, especially for elections that don't appear on people's social media feed. Seniors are 15x more likely to vote for mayors than those between 18-35 [1]. Fewer than 20% of people know the names of their state legislatures [2]. Meanwhile, there is no shortage of outrage on social media on issues that state legislatures vote for like gerrymandering and now abortion. Rather than research which state representatives are pro-choice, activists would rather yell loudly at the Supreme Court to resign and whine about being disenfranchised when that doesn't work. > vote with your wallets Voting with your wallet in this context would be to stop watching Youtube videos. However, they don't want to do that, and instead would rather making exaggerated claims of Youtube supporting ISIS. So social media companies reacted with their half-assed solutions that lead to situations like what is described in the article. Now, you're seeing people making exaggerated claims about Facebook wanting to be censors. I seriously doubt that people actually give a damn about ISIS videos with a few dozen views or the well-being of pornstars. Rather, they really just trying to raise awareness about evil corporations, which is the case with most of the comments here. However, none of this actually contributes to our collective intelligence of how to actually regulate tech or enact anti-trusts. At best, this anger may cause Facebook to do a little more due diligence about adding people to their terrorist watchlist, but the real problem people care about isn't solved. [1] http://whovotesformayor.org/ http://whovotesformayor.org/ [2] https://hub.jhu.edu/2018/12/14/americans-dont-understand-state-government/ https://hub.jhu.edu/2018/12/14/americans-dont-understand-sta...

throwaway0a5e 4y ago
> I seriously doubt that people actually give a damn about ISIS videos with a few dozen views or the well-being of pornstars. Rather, they really just trying to raise awareness about evil corporations, Lizard brain just knows that it likes it when the number in the top right goes up. Lizard brain knows that vapid comments and over the top calls to action make it go up faster. You get what you incentivize.
orwin 4y ago
But which generation/social class are the mayor candidates from? Why vote for a representative who doesn't represent you? That was never explained to me. Now, i still vote, but i'm also steadily middle-class and richer than 50% of the people of my country (by wealth, in my 30s). And voting with your wallet is boycotting. If you boycott, you have to explain to the company why. I'm boycotting Lactalys and Nestle dairy products since 20 years, are you against that too? Or is only the demonstrative boycotts with social media reach you're agaisnt? And in this case, isn't it disingenuous? "I'm pro boycott only if the company doesn't know why you're boycotting them". There is no justification imho. Like i said, if you ever use the phrase "you should vote with your wallet" or similar, you don't get to whine about boycotts and cacnel culture, this state is your own doing.
jen20 4y ago
> Meanwhile, there is no shortage of outrage on social media on issues that state legislatures vote for like gerrymandering As there should be - it’s one of the most abhorrent things that legislatures of all stripes have attempted, and those responsible should be held accountable. They have removed any ability to do so via electoral means, and should probably be reasonably happy that people complain on social media instead of something more physical.

by Aunche 4y ago

throwaway0a5e 4y ago

> I seriously doubt that people actually give a damn about ISIS videos with a few dozen views or the well-being of pornstars. Rather, they really just trying to raise awareness about evil corporations, Lizard brain just knows that it likes it when the number in the top right goes up. Lizard brain knows that vapid comments and over the top calls to action make it go up faster. You get what you incentivize.

orwin 4y ago

But which generation/social class are the mayor candidates from? Why vote for a representative who doesn't represent you? That was never explained to me. Now, i still vote, but i'm also steadily middle-class and richer than 50% of the people of my country (by wealth, in my 30s). And voting with your wallet is boycotting. If you boycott, you have to explain to the company why. I'm boycotting Lactalys and Nestle dairy products since 20 years, are you against that too? Or is only the demonstrative boycotts with social media reach you're agaisnt? And in this case, isn't it disingenuous? "I'm pro boycott only if the company doesn't know why you're boycotting them". There is no justification imho. Like i said, if you ever use the phrase "you should vote with your wallet" or similar, you don't get to whine about boycotts and cacnel culture, this state is your own doing.

jen20 4y ago

> Meanwhile, there is no shortage of outrage on social media on issues that state legislatures vote for like gerrymandering As there should be - it’s one of the most abhorrent things that legislatures of all stripes have attempted, and those responsible should be held accountable. They have removed any ability to do so via electoral means, and should probably be reasonably happy that people complain on social media instead of something more physical.