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I switched to Apple Maps as part of an attempt to de-googlify my life. It's pretty good 95% of the time. That 5% inconvenience is worth it, to me. However, afte

by glial 4y ago

I switched to Apple Maps as part of an attempt to de-googlify my life. It's pretty good 95% of the time. That 5% inconvenience is worth it, to me. However, after seeing the OSM mentions in the comments, I'm inclined to check that out... Apple Maps doesn't have offline navigation, and I wish it did.

swozey 4y ago
It's not free and has a pretty different use case but most of us in the Jeep community use Gaia GPS for offline maps, if you want to stay away from G it may be an option.
- ralusek 4y ago
  The Jeep community sounds wild
  - swozey 4y ago
    We get lost a lot!
db1234 4y ago
What if this attitude catches on? i.e. ok with working well 95% of the time? Can that break Google's search dominance? What if there is a new search engine which does a good enough job of indexing top 'n' websites and not really care about hyper optimized results based on personal preferences? If such a search engine works well 95% of the time and that's good enough for most people, it could take significant traffic away from Google. People could still fallback on Google for those highly optimized results for complex search queries.
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- jacobolus 4y ago
  DuckDuckGo works a higher percentage of the time than Google does for me, with a lot less visual clutter, advertising, or underhanded attempts to trick me. YMMV. (Though I would still prefer have Google search from ca. 2005–2010.) In particular, > highly optimized results for complex search queries Google has gotten almost completely worthless for these, but unfortunately no other search engine does a good job with them at this point either.
adolph 4y ago
Apple Maps is a great OSM client. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Apple https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Apple https://web.archive.org/web/20211204010048/http://gspa21.ls.apple.com/html/attribution.html https://web.archive.org/web/20211204010048/http://gspa21.ls....
matkoniecz 4y ago
Organic Maps works quite well. Though Google Maps is still better for car navigation and POIs - but if you need it for walking/hiking/tourism or need offline map data then it can be much better. Obviously there is also the entire privacy/open data angle that may be crucial or irrelevant. Mapy.cz are quite nice (sadly, they fail to mention source of data in violation of OSM license)

by glial 4y ago

swozey 4y ago

It's not free and has a pretty different use case but most of us in the Jeep community use Gaia GPS for offline maps, if you want to stay away from G it may be an option.

ralusek 4y ago
The Jeep community sounds wild
- swozey 4y ago
  We get lost a lot!

db1234 4y ago

What if this attitude catches on? i.e. ok with working well 95% of the time? Can that break Google's search dominance? What if there is a new search engine which does a good enough job of indexing top 'n' websites and not really care about hyper optimized results based on personal preferences? If such a search engine works well 95% of the time and that's good enough for most people, it could take significant traffic away from Google. People could still fallback on Google for those highly optimized results for complex search queries.

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jacobolus 4y ago
DuckDuckGo works a higher percentage of the time than Google does for me, with a lot less visual clutter, advertising, or underhanded attempts to trick me. YMMV. (Though I would still prefer have Google search from ca. 2005–2010.) In particular, > highly optimized results for complex search queries Google has gotten almost completely worthless for these, but unfortunately no other search engine does a good job with them at this point either.

adolph 4y ago

Apple Maps is a great OSM client. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Apple https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Apple https://web.archive.org/web/20211204010048/http://gspa21.ls.apple.com/html/attribution.html https://web.archive.org/web/20211204010048/http://gspa21.ls....

matkoniecz 4y ago

Organic Maps works quite well. Though Google Maps is still better for car navigation and POIs - but if you need it for walking/hiking/tourism or need offline map data then it can be much better. Obviously there is also the entire privacy/open data angle that may be crucial or irrelevant. Mapy.cz are quite nice (sadly, they fail to mention source of data in violation of OSM license)