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> In general, existing SRS does a very bad job of supporting priority and prerequisites between items. This is a feature I've wanted to implement for a while,

by allenu 4y ago

> In general, existing SRS does a very bad job of supporting priority and prerequisites between items. This is a feature I've wanted to implement for a while, but I think it would be hard from a user's perspective to set up the dependencies. Specifically, I mean marking a card unlearnable until another card (or cards) is learned. It's something that I think requires a good UI so you can see at a glance which cards depend on which other cards. You'd go in and essentially make a skill tree of all the cards. It might be something more useful for more serious deck creators. My dream is being able to create a deck where you have both vocab and then sentences that use the vocab. You'd make sentences that use the vocab dependent on the vocab being learned first, so that over time you'd gradually unlock more material that uses your base knowledge.

zozbot234 4y ago
Where this feature would be especially useful too is idioms and collocations ("words best used together"), not just full sentences. It's something that's not often addressed in formal language learning but a big part of native fluency. And yes, it's a lot of data. Though it could be made manageable by e.g. importing it from external knowledge graphs/mindmaps and the like.
- barking_biscuit 4y ago
  In my experience, the brain collects background statistics on collocations through exposure to native media. It's an aspect of language learning I'm not convinced SRS is suited to or really appropriate for.
barking_biscuit 4y ago
>My dream is being able to create a deck where you have both vocab and then sentences that use the vocab. You'd make sentences that use the vocab dependent on the vocab being learned first, so that over time you'd gradually unlock more material that uses your base knowledge. Pretty unnecessary in my experience. I only did around 2k sentences and that was for the express purpose of internalizing grammar, and found that 99 times out of 100 it was pretty natural to just learn the new vocab that came with the sentence. There would be the occasional one that would take a few times before I got it, but it was pretty insignificant problem. After I smashed out all the grammar I just did purely vocab after that and it worked like an absolute charm.
kouteiheika 4y ago
> My dream is being able to create a deck where you have both vocab and then sentences that use the vocab. You'd make sentences that use the vocab dependent on the vocab being learned first, so that over time you'd gradually unlock more material that uses your base knowledge. You can also go the other way. Have a huge database of sentences, and pick example sentences for new cards which only use vocabulary which you already know (besides the new word which you want to learn through that card, of course). I do that for my Japanese SRS app, and it works decently well from the feedback I get from my users.

by allenu 4y ago

zozbot234 4y ago

Where this feature would be especially useful too is idioms and collocations ("words best used together"), not just full sentences. It's something that's not often addressed in formal language learning but a big part of native fluency. And yes, it's a lot of data. Though it could be made manageable by e.g. importing it from external knowledge graphs/mindmaps and the like.

barking_biscuit 4y ago
In my experience, the brain collects background statistics on collocations through exposure to native media. It's an aspect of language learning I'm not convinced SRS is suited to or really appropriate for.

barking_biscuit 4y ago

>My dream is being able to create a deck where you have both vocab and then sentences that use the vocab. You'd make sentences that use the vocab dependent on the vocab being learned first, so that over time you'd gradually unlock more material that uses your base knowledge. Pretty unnecessary in my experience. I only did around 2k sentences and that was for the express purpose of internalizing grammar, and found that 99 times out of 100 it was pretty natural to just learn the new vocab that came with the sentence. There would be the occasional one that would take a few times before I got it, but it was pretty insignificant problem. After I smashed out all the grammar I just did purely vocab after that and it worked like an absolute charm.

kouteiheika 4y ago

> My dream is being able to create a deck where you have both vocab and then sentences that use the vocab. You'd make sentences that use the vocab dependent on the vocab being learned first, so that over time you'd gradually unlock more material that uses your base knowledge. You can also go the other way. Have a huge database of sentences, and pick example sentences for new cards which only use vocabulary which you already know (besides the new word which you want to learn through that card, of course). I do that for my Japanese SRS app, and it works decently well from the feedback I get from my users.