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The main issue with "health as a goal" is that its very ill-defined and hard to measure. Instead, if your goal is "run a 5k without stopping", then its really

The main issue with "health as a goal" is that its very ill-defined and hard to measure. Instead, if your goal is "run a 5k without stopping", then its really much more obvious if you're hitting or missing that goal. Or 10 pullups (or 5 pullups or whatever). You can ask yourself: what can a healthy-person do? There's a bit of wiggleroom and interpretation over it. I think run a mile, lift 100lbs, and do some pullups and a handstand / cartwheel. Yeah, its a bit silly but... they are defined goals that I was unable to do before I practiced, and am now able to do. > If that extra strength/endurance doesn't translate to much better health outcomes That extra strength/endurance translates into my ability to walk around cities and other locations I visit. I think the "run a mile" and "run/jog a 5k" benchmarks are useful, because when you're visiting other cities, you want to have enough leg strength and endurance to like, walk around and not take an Uber all the time? Cartwheel / handstand / pullup is largely for fun. I can't say that its ever been useful, but playing with my nieces and keeping up with them is important to me in some respects. I think I use some of that strength when lifting my nieces and carrying them around when they get tired in the city. "Lift 100 lbs" is just officework, strangely enough. Every now and then, you gotta move a UPS unit or whatever, and having the strength to move lead-acid batteries around the racks is helpful (even if you nominally have a 2nd person supposed to be helping you). I'm no power-lifter, but its a level of strength that apparently a lot of my other officemates don't have. --------- The flexibility to "slav-squat" / "3rd world squat" is useful when changing tires / working on my car. Also quickly sitting / resting in front of a store in a city without touching the ground.

Dylan16807 4y ago
> That extra strength/endurance translates into my ability to walk around cities and other locations I visit. But you're the weekend exerciser. The question is whether there'd be any use to matching the strength/endurance of those other people around you.
- dragontamer 4y ago
  Being the weekend exerciser means that I'm able to keep up with the athletes when they want to walk to the next restaurant / location... rather than taking an Uber with the non-exercisers. I'm not strong enough to beat the athletes in a footrace. But they're not racing me, they're just walking at their normal pace / jogging pace to make travel a bit quicker. ----------- Being the weekend-exerciser means that I can lift one of my nieces and throw her around safely as I play with her. (Ex: pick her up, throw her onto the monkey bars at the playground and whatnot). But I'm not as strong as the athlete who can lift _TWO_ of my nieces (one in each hand) and toss them both around safely and at the same time. As such, my nieces swarm the athlete of the group and ask to be picked up / moved around / etc. etc when we go to playgrounds. Because having fun with her sister is twice the fun. You know, little things that stronger people can do that weaker people cannot do.
  - coldtea 4y ago
    >Being the weekend exerciser means that I'm able to keep up with the athletes when they want to walk to the next restaurant / location... Do you have that problem a lot? Because a whole lot more common problem is cardiovascular problems, obesity, and sedetary life. And what I mean with "health as a goal" is "No need to try to be an endurance runner, or build serious muscle, or whatever, just do enough say cardio for heart health, lifting to be generally fit" and so on. And it's not vague, as for those there are recommended guidelines and suggestions of the exercize amount - but one can do even better to get personalized ones from your doctor.

Dylan16807 4y ago

> That extra strength/endurance translates into my ability to walk around cities and other locations I visit. But you're the weekend exerciser. The question is whether there'd be any use to matching the strength/endurance of those other people around you.

dragontamer 4y ago
Being the weekend exerciser means that I'm able to keep up with the athletes when they want to walk to the next restaurant / location... rather than taking an Uber with the non-exercisers. I'm not strong enough to beat the athletes in a footrace. But they're not racing me, they're just walking at their normal pace / jogging pace to make travel a bit quicker. ----------- Being the weekend-exerciser means that I can lift one of my nieces and throw her around safely as I play with her. (Ex: pick her up, throw her onto the monkey bars at the playground and whatnot). But I'm not as strong as the athlete who can lift _TWO_ of my nieces (one in each hand) and toss them both around safely and at the same time. As such, my nieces swarm the athlete of the group and ask to be picked up / moved around / etc. etc when we go to playgrounds. Because having fun with her sister is twice the fun. You know, little things that stronger people can do that weaker people cannot do.
- coldtea 4y ago
  >Being the weekend exerciser means that I'm able to keep up with the athletes when they want to walk to the next restaurant / location... Do you have that problem a lot? Because a whole lot more common problem is cardiovascular problems, obesity, and sedetary life. And what I mean with "health as a goal" is "No need to try to be an endurance runner, or build serious muscle, or whatever, just do enough say cardio for heart health, lifting to be generally fit" and so on. And it's not vague, as for those there are recommended guidelines and suggestions of the exercize amount - but one can do even better to get personalized ones from your doctor.